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oldnick



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Radiola linoides (200705111528_6117) Reply with quote

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Specimen #267172

Taxon:Linaceae: Radiola linoides Roth ("Allseed")
Filed in taxon folder:Linaceae: Radiola linoides Roth ("Allseed")
Collected by:Rev John William Daltry
Collection date:1840
Locality:Great Britain, VC40 Shropshire, Gravenhunger Moss, SJ740426
Institution:Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:Radiola linoides herbarium specimen from Gravenhunger Moss, VC40 Shropshire in 1840 by Rev John William Daltry.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by qgroom on 19th November 2008.

Checked by wonastow

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dateuserchange
16/11/2010oldnickDeleted locality: GB AMBIGUOUS Madeley
16/11/2010oldnickAdded locality: GB VC39 Madeley, 'Graven Hanger'[??]
17/11/2010wonastowDeleted locality: GB VC39 Madeley, 'Graven Hanger'[??]
17/11/2010wonastowAdded locality: GB VC40 Gravenhunger Moss SJ740426 (place)
17/11/2010wonastowAdded collector: Rev John William Daltry
17/11/2010wonastowAdded collection date: 1840

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oldnick wrote
County not stated, but this is one of a large set of sheets collected in Staffs 1840; I couldn't locate 'Graven Hanger'[??]


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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 1833 Rev Thomas William Daltry (1804-1879) was appointed Vicar of Madeley, Staffs, and remained there till his death. Kent & Allen have an entry for Rev. Thomas William Daltry (1832-1904) - his son? There is a possibility that the Madeley 1840 specimens are Daltry pater's.
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The collection of Harold William Daltry (1887 - 1963) passed to the herbarium at Keele. http://www.bookrags.com/tandf/daltry-harold-william-tf/
He was the son of Rev Thomas William Daltry (1832 - 1904), Vicar at Madeley. T W Daltry was the son of John William Daltry, Vicar of Madeley
http://allsaints-madeley.org.uk/history/vicars.html.
T W Daltry contributed a paper on The Mistletoe to the North Staffs Field Club in 1975, he also contributed to The Entomologist. He was elected a Fellow of the Linnean Society in 1875, and fellow of the Royal Entomological Society in 1887.
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gravenhunger Moss?
OS Grid reference SJ737425
Just down the road from Madeley though seems to be in Shropshire VC40
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David Price



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Gravenhunger Moss' is what has been written though it is not in Staffs but vc 40 Shropshire.

As Chris Liffen has pointed out, Rev T W Daltry's father was Rev John (not Thomas) William Daltry (my original source was erroneous). C of E Clergy database confirms J W Daltry was appointed vicar of Madeley in 1833 and Crockford's Clerical Directory provides other biographical details. There is further information in FENSCORE.

Circumstantial evidence points to John William Daltry (1804-1879) as the collector of this and the other 'Madeley 1840' plants.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll happily edit the other sheets accordingly, they are distinctive in appearance. One is labelled madeley in ink, with 'Graven Hunger' added later in pencil, which evidently could be either but the latter I assume more likely.
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