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chrisu



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Hornungia petraea (21643) Reply with quote

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Specimen #284188

Taxon:Brassicaceae: Hornungia petraea (L.) Rchb. ("Hutchinsia")
Filed in taxon folder:Brassicaceae: Hornungia petraea (L.) Rchb. ("Hutchinsia")
Collected by:Miss Martha Maria Atwood
Collection date:3/1853
Locality:Great Britain, VC6 North Somerset, Saint Vincent's Rocks, ST57, Bristol
ex herb:Prof George Stephen West
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Hornungia petraea herbarium specimen from Saint Vincent's Rocks, VC6 North Somerset in 1853 by Miss Martha Maria Atwood.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by chrisu on 9th December 2009.

Specimen #284189

Taxon:Brassicaceae: Hornungia petraea (L.) Rchb. ("Hutchinsia")
Filed in taxon folder:Brassicaceae: Hornungia petraea (L.) Rchb. ("Hutchinsia")
Collected by:E Edwards
Collection date:1858
Locality:Great Britain, VC16 West Kent, Eltham, TQ47, old walls
ex herb:Prof George Stephen West
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by chrisu on 9th December 2009.

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11/12/2009chrisuDeleted locality: GB VC20 Eltham, old walls
11/12/2009chrisuAdded locality: GB VC16 Eltham, old walls
11/12/2009chrisuDeleted locality: GB VC16 Eltham, old walls
11/12/2009chrisuAdded locality: GB VC16 Eltham, old walls

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chrisu wrote
there appear to be 2 collectors labels but only one specimen ?


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of those sheets made up of others with scissors and paste. Intriguing to wonder what may have been lost/discarded in such process. At best, an attempt to rescue a disintegrating old sheet & specimen. Or could one specimen have been donated to another herbarium?
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David Price



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two specimens: Atwood's seeds and Edwards's plant. Doesn't the Edwards label read "old walls Eltham hort"?
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chrisu



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! so the "seeds" specimen is in the folded paper? Embarassed
It could read Eltham hort.......
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha Ha! It's Eltham (West) Kent (not hort)! There are a number of sheets from there, the two nearest in date are Centranthus calcitrapae, also some have un-named collectors. At present I have not checked them for handwriting or other clues; but so far no name of Edwards appears.
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chrisu



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look like Kent now you mention it, I shall edit the sheet
The handwriting really confuses me at times Very Happy
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