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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:59 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Luzula sylvatica (28544) Reply with quote

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Specimen #289905

Taxon:Luzula sylvatica (Huds.) Gaudin ("Great Wood-rush")
Other name:Juncaceae: Luzula maxima DC.
Filed in taxon folder:Luzula sylvatica (Huds.) Gaudin ("Great Wood-rush")
Collection date:4/1898
Locality:Great Britain, VC37 Worcestershire, Golden Valley, SO768368, "Dis. 108"
ex herb:Mr Langley Kitching
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Luzula sylvatica herbarium specimen from Golden Valley, VC37 Worcestershire in 1898.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by mikedaps on 19th February 2010.

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20/02/2010mikedapsDeleted locality: GB AMBIGUOUS Golden Valley, "Dis. 108"
20/02/2010mikedapsAdded locality: GB VC37 Golden Valley, "Dis. 108" SO768368 (place)
20/02/2010mikedapsDeleted collection date: 1898
20/02/2010mikedapsAdded collection date: 4/1898

Specimen #289906

Taxon:Luzula sylvatica (Huds.) Gaudin ("Great Wood-rush")
Filed in taxon folder:Luzula sylvatica (Huds.) Gaudin ("Great Wood-rush")
Collected by:Mr Langley Kitching
Collection date:22/6/1876
Locality:Great Britain, VC64 Mid-west Yorkshire, Ingleborough, SD7275, "Limestone ledges near Inglebro"
ex herb:Mr Langley Kitching
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by mikedaps on 19th February 2010.

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mikedaps wrote
No herbarium detailed but the sheet matches the LK specimen also from Golden Valley at http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/269292/
I can't make out the word/signature/date before 1898 on the top specimen label. Any ideas?


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David Price



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Golden Valley" may be at SO770369
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks......but there is also one in Gloucestershire, another in Derbyshire and seemingly several in Scotland....LK seems to have collected pretty well every across GB in 1898, if it was him that collected the specimen, but the writing looks different so not much to go on to tell which it might be ....unless can figure out did collect it.. any idea what the squiggle before 1898 is?
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think that you have extracted all that there is on the label ! only offering I can suggest is that it says April 1898. If April 98, then other LK specimens seem to be 'local' (assuming it is Kitching).
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks: Turned out there is a Golden Valley in Worcestershire as well fitting in with his living up at Bewdley in April 98. Amended. Mike d'A

Also suggests that for LK specimen:
http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/281464/
from "Arley, Nr Bewdley" in 09/04/1898 should be one of the Worcestershire Arley's (Wood or Ho) not Staffs (I can't trace any) unless there is some reason I'm missing???.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems reasonable; Bewdley was his centre of operations - do you think his Arley Wood has become the Arboretum ?
http://www.arley-arboretum.org.uk/indexa.php
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was interesting - the OS map has an Arboretum label at the Bodenham farm site (SO806814) on the southern edge of the the woods that include Arley Wood. While 4kms away Arley House also has the Arboretum from your link (unlabeled by OS) that has been about since 1820 - I'd also somehow managed to wrongly get both showing up as in Worcs VC not Staffs where they actually are. Hence amended and 'unamended'
http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/281464/
Alex was correct all along! Mike d'A
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arley House is where Arley Castle stood at SO767807 and is in vc39 Staffordshire; see http://herbariaunited.org/gridrefVC/?gridref=SO767807&lat=&long=&lrsheet=&lreast=&lrnorth=&do=search&search=look-up+county+or+grid-reference#sf though H@H volunteers have consigned it variously to Worcs, Staffs and Warwicks.

Several 19th century collectors (eg Rev J H Thompson) collected True Service Tree at Arley Castle http://www.worcswildlifetrust.co.uk/files/uploaded/service.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Golden Valley that Kitching refers to on sheets from this month, seems not to be the site near Hollybush (between Ledbury & Tewkesbury), but to be near Bewdley, (Kidderminster) see: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/254989/ Although I haven't managed to find this on the map, it appears in a painting in Bewdley Museum:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/the-golden-valley-bewdley-worcestershire-52567
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bewdley Snuff Mill web page (with photos) says it was located in 'Golden Valley, near Tickenhill'.

Both Tickenhill and the disused mill are shown on the OS 6" map of 1929 suggesting that the valley is that running to the west, containing Snuff Dingle Wood, OS SO7874.
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