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hallucigenia



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Scorzonera humilis (31376) Reply with quote

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Specimen #300868

Taxon:Asteraceae: Scorzonera humilis L. ("Viper's-grass")
Other name:Scorzonera angustifolia
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Scorzonera humilis L. ("Viper's-grass")
Locality:Croatia, Ossero
ex herb:Friedrich Wilhelm Noe
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Scorzonera humilis herbarium specimen from Ossero.
fruits/flowers:buds/immature flowers
notes:Scorzonera angustifolia. Ossero [Croatia] in pascuis [= in pastures]

Documented by hallucigenia on 11th June 2010.

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dateuserchange
12/08/2010oldnickAdded determination (orig): Scorzonera angustifolia
12/08/2010oldnickDeleted note: Humilis
12/08/2010oldnickAdded notes
12/08/2010oldnickDeleted provenance: exherb (Friedrich Wilhelm Noƫ)
12/08/2010oldnickAdded provenance: exherb Friedrich Wilhelm Noe
12/08/2010CLLDeleted locality: DE
12/08/2010CLLAdded locality: Ossero
06/11/2012oldnickDeleted locality: Ossero
06/11/2012oldnickAdded locality: HR Ossero
06/11/2012oldnickDeleted note: Scorzonera angustifolia. Osseso in pascuis [= .... in meadows?]
06/11/2012oldnickAdded note: Scorzonera angustifolia. Ossero [Croatia] in pascuis [= in pastures]

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hallucigenia wrote
Country infered. no records of thes person in data bases. But The standard author abbreviation Noe is used to indicate Friedrich Wilhelm Noë (18?? - 1858), German botanist. Worked as pharmacist in Fiume and later as director of the Galata - Serai botanical gardens in Constantinopel [Istanbul].
From www.flowersinisrael.com/Crepissancta_page.htm


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was really pleased to see your detective work as this label was very familiar to me! Having spent ages previously trying to match a similar one to anything. There are several specimens from this guy, scattered at disparate places around the menu, and I am going to put on 'messages help & support' a request to unify these. 2 comments - on your sheet, the name is spelt with the French acute accent, not the double dot; you have entered Germany where no country is given; another sheet states 'Fiume' (I think??) but has been entered on H@H as France!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I can do something useful for a change but Chris Liffen pointed me at Noe, I did not put the accent on must have been H@H.
I think I have now seen three examples of his work, maybe four.
Germany was a guess as that appears to be where he lived and worked.
As to Flume I have had two sheets where the i.e. A. anything and anything is written on in pencil in addition to the that typed.
Chris
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