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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Viola lactea (1486) Reply with quote

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Specimen #310553

Taxon:Violaceae: Viola lactea Sm. ("Pale Dog-violet")
Other name:Viola lactea var. intermedia Wats
Filed in taxon folder:Violaceae: Viola lactea Sm. ("Pale Dog-violet")
Collection date:5/6/1913
Locality:Great Britain, VC34 West Gloucestershire, Mitcheldean Meend, SO6518
ex herb:J G
Institution:Gloucester City Museum (GLR)
Image:Viola lactea herbarium specimen from Mitcheldean Meend, VC34 West Gloucestershire in 1913.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by mikedaps on 12th November 2010.

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28/09/2015chrisuDeleted locality: GB VC34 Mitcheldean
28/09/2015chrisuAdded locality: GB VC34 Mitcheldean Meend SO6518 (place)

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mikedaps wrote
Probably missing the obvious but: both labels have "z" (or =) "major Rouly"(?) - Any idea if a vernacular sp/variety name or the collector's or ??
If not the collector's name any ideas who the collector might have been?


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rouy is the author of many botanical names. Viola lactea is said in CTW 2 to have be not a variable sp; & though major & intermedia must be meant as varieties, synonyms etc, I find no similar name in Stace 2 or CTW 2.
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Rouy seems the best bet although can't find a connection with V. lactea, there doesn't seem to be a V. intermedi(e)a or a V. Lactea var/ssp intermedia and no 'major's listed in IPNI etc let alone any of the above with a Wat(son) author link.... In conclusion seems as you suggest "JG"'s classification/comparison/description seems to be unique to him! Thanks anyway.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shouldn't worry too much. The Victorians were hyper-critical about some genera, including Viola: Mrs E S Gregory and Dr E Drabble particularly so in this country; Rouy and others abroad. Flora of Gloucestershire records about 70 taxa (not counting synonyms) at various levels: species, subspecies, variety and form, most of which are now considered redundant.

V. major Rouy is a synonym of V. lactea Sm. var intermedia Wats., neither of which is mentioned in Fl Glos though there is the following record of V. lactea at Mitcheldean Meend: " 'A specimen I gathered there is not quite pure.' Gregory".
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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, good to know there probably isn't a straightforward interpretation of some of the notations. Though admittedly it's still quite fun to conduct the nugatory exercise of trying to track one down... I dread to think what 19thC brypophyte collection labels must be like!
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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're not too bad. See http://herbariaunited.org/sheets/MANCH/IMG-9401.jpg
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