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oldnick



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Pyrola rotundifolia (29327) Reply with quote

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Specimen #351958

Taxon:Pyrolaceae: Pyrola rotundifolia L. ("Round-leaved Wintergreen")
Filed in taxon folder:Pyrolaceae: Pyrola rotundifolia L. ("Round-leaved Wintergreen")
Collected by:Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian Harris Teall (Dulwich College)
Collection date:9/1903
Locality:Great Britain, VC59 South Lancashire, Southport, SD31, dunes
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Pyrola rotundifolia herbarium specimen from Southport, VC59 South Lancashire in 1903 by Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian  Harris Teall (Dulwich College).
notes:J H Teall (Dulwich)

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Documented by shaw30 on 31st December 2012.

Checked by mossysal

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dateuserchange
07/02/2016mossysalDeleted note: J H Peall(Dulwich)
07/02/2016mossysalAdded note: J H Teall (Dulwich)
07/02/2016<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted collector: J H Teall
07/02/2016<system> (minor automatic edit)Added collector: Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian Harris Teall (Dulwich College)

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shaw30 wrote
presumably this is the unknown J H P of many Dulwich College records

oldnick wrote
Certainly looks like it!


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think it says "Mrs" J H Peall? And if so why? Is it Mr JHP giving credit?! If so we cannot assume all JHPs are this collector!
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or (Mrs) J H Teall ?

There was a Teall family, who lived in Rosendale, Dulwich, which included Jethro Harris Teall D Sc OBE. Director of the Geological Survey of Gt Britain.
Dates 1849-1924
He and Mrs Teall were at the Darwin Wallace celebration in 1908

see page 63
http://archive.org/stream/darwinwallacecel00linniala#page/62/mode/2up
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and Teall (1849-1924) was a member and past President of the Bournemouth Natural History Society
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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teall's addresses to the Society during that period included "The Evolution of Igneous Rocks" and "Some Aspects of Egyptian Geology", but no mention of anything botanical.
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that I indicated originally that Teall was indeed a geologist.
However, his early education was not devoid of botanical instruction - as indicated by an article in the Geological Magazine


Quite who these various Dulwich sheets should be ascribed to remains problematic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this have been William Lowndes Notcutt? From 'The Chemist and Druggist':
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrs Teall was interested in things botanical, and the Tealls and Teesdales were known to each other

Selbourne Magazine snippet
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the first sheet I've seen which has the name Teall and not just initials
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