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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Lychnis alpina (33255) Reply with quote

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Specimen #303998

Taxon:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Filed in taxon folder:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:27/8/1881
Locality:Great Britain, VC70 Cumberland, Hobcarton Crags, NY12, [adjacent to Grisedale Pike]
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Lychnis alpina herbarium specimen from Hobcarton Crags, VC70 Cumberland in 1881 by Rev. Augustin Ley.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:[date - see user comments]

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by nacs12 on 17th July 2010.

Checked by oldnick

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02/01/2014oldnickAdded note: [date - see user comments]
02/01/2014oldnickDeleted locality: GB VC70 Hobearten Crag
02/01/2014oldnickAdded locality: GB VC70 Hobcarton Crags, [adjacent to Grisedale Pike]
02/01/2014oldnickDeleted collection date: 27/8/1882
02/01/2014oldnickAdded collection date: 27/8/1881

Specimen #303999

Taxon:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Filed in taxon folder:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:1/7/1874
Locality:Great Britain, VC90 Angus, Little Kilrannoch, NO27
ex herb:Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by nacs12 on 17th July 2010.

Checked by oldnick

Specimen #304001

Taxon:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Filed in taxon folder:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Collected by:Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:20/7/1876
Locality:Great Britain, VC90 Angus, Little Kilrannoch, NO27
ex herb:Mr John Harbord Lewis
Prof George Stephen West
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by nacs12 on 17th July 2010.

Checked by oldnick

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02/01/2014oldnickAdded collector: Rev. Augustin Ley
02/01/2014oldnickDeleted collection date: 20/7/1870
02/01/2014oldnickAdded collection date: 20/7/1876

Specimen #366779

Taxon:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Filed in taxon folder:Caryophyllaceae: Lychnis alpina L. ("Alpine Catchfly")
Collected by:Alexander Craig-Christie
Collection date:23/5/1869
Locality:Great Britain, VC90 Angus, Little Kilrannoch [Little Gilrannoch], NO27
ex herb:Dr Robert Large Baker
Mr George Nicholson
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
notes:[confusing labels - see user notes]

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Documented by oldnick on 2nd January 2014.

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03/01/2014oldnickAdded note: [confusing labels - see user notes]
03/01/2014oldnickDeleted collector: Nicholson
03/01/2014oldnickAdded collector: Alexander Craig Christie
03/01/2014oldnickAdded provenance: exherb Mr George Nicholson

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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oldnick wrote
Ley's date '27/8/1882' seems an uncharacteristic mistake, since he collected in Herefordshire on that date, but a year earlier at Hobcarton Crags


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David Price



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Christie's spmn is ex herb Geo Nicholson ex herb Dr R L Baker (i.e. no separate Nicholson spmn) - both labels have collector's number 192 (but Baker has wrongly transcribed the date).

There is no evidence that Christie's spmn is ex herb Ley so it's confusing that it has been curated with three spmns which have a Ley association.
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I agree about those Christie - Baker labels and have re-edited accordingly.
It looks like this sheet is a pastiche of other sheets snipped up. Reminiscent of some of my earlier hobby days. Was there a paper shortage at the time?
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