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peterwiggins



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Ulmus glabra subsp. montana (41864) Reply with quote

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Specimen #368356

Taxon:Ulmaceae: Ulmus glabra subsp. montana Hyl.
Other name:Urticaceae: Ulmus montana Stokes
Filed in taxon folder:Ulmaceae: Ulmus glabra subsp. montana Hyl.
Collected by:Joseph Woods
Collection date:20/6/1846
Locality:Great Britain, VC14 East Sussex, Landport, TQ41, Nearer tree
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Ulmus glabra subsp. montana herbarium specimen from Landport, VC14 East Sussex in 1846 by Joseph Woods.

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Documented by peterwiggins on 26th January 2014.

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26/01/2014peterwigginsAdded notes
26/01/2014peterwigginsDeleted locality:
26/01/2014peterwigginsAdded locality: GB VC14 Lewes
26/01/2014peterwigginsDeleted collector: Mr Allan Octavian Hume
26/01/2014peterwigginsAdded collector: Joseph Woods
26/01/2014peterwigginsAdded collection date: 20/6/1846
31/01/2014xmhcmanDeleted note: Landport
31/01/2014xmhcmanDeleted locality: GB VC14 Lewes
31/01/2014xmhcmanAdded locality: GB VC14 Landport, Nearer tree

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peterwiggins wrote
I suspect place and date may not have been photographed on the back of the sheet


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Tom Humphrey
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'label on the back' is the one offset below the main label (copy/pasted into the image).
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peterwiggins



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject: label on the back Reply with quote

I wondered if some of the label on the back had been missed?
He refers to date and place being on the back, but they are not in the label that has been photographed.
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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of those cryptic Joseph Woods labels, the date 46620 corresponds to 20th June 1846. The location appears to be 'Landport nearer tree', as opposed to the 'farther tree' of sheet 367808, collected the same day. Landport is now part of Lewes, but in Woods' time would have been a separate village ~1km NW, which presumably had two Elm trees!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have said Wych Elm! Joseph Woods has another example on sheet 367665 ex herb. Townsend and Hume where the writer of the label (not Woods) has put 'Landport Hants'. There is such a place in Portsea, Portsmouth, and Woods did collect from Portsea, but I wonder if this example is a misinterpretation of what Woods reported.
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