Feedback request: Carex hirta (13588)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #270081

Taxon:	Cyperaceae: Carex hirta L. ("Hairy Sedge")
Filed in taxon folder:	Cyperaceae: Carex hirta L. ("Hairy Sedge")
Collection date:	6/1843
Locality:	Great Britain, VC24 Buckinghamshire, Scotsgrove Hill, SP7107, 'Near Scotchgrove Hill'
ex herb:	Sir J Benjamin Stone Prof George Stephen West
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	[site and collector - see message board]

Documented by daniel king on 12^th January 2009.

Edit history

date	user	change
20/03/2014	oldnick	Added note: [site and collector - see message board]
20/03/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: Scotchgrove Hill
20/03/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC24 Scotsgrove Hill, 'Near Scotchgrove Hill' SP7107 (place)
20/03/2014	oldnick	Added collector: Sir J Benjamin Stone
21/03/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: Sir J Benjamin Stone
21/03/2014	oldnick	Added provenance: exherb Sir J Benjamin Stone

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

I can't locate a 'Scotchgrove Hill' or similar - at least not in British Isles

[Roger Horton]

I wonder if this is Scotsgrove Hill OS SP7107, a country estate, just north of Thame, Oxfordshire, but over the border in Buckinghamshire?

[Roger Horton]

How about J Benjamin Stone as collector? Style of numbers in date looks similar, and he didn't often stray far from Thame when collecting.

[oldnick]

You're definitely right! Similar sheet: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/294623/?image And Scotsgrove Hill shows on Streetmap as part of the A418

[David Price]

Is Kent & Allen's Sir J Benjamin Stone (fl. 1882-1892) identical with the politician and photographer of the same name (1838-1914) mentioned in Wikipedia? Are they, or either of them, identical with the "presenter" of sheet http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/294623/?image and with the collector of that specimen?

These questions are prompted by the specimens' collection date - 1843: when Wiki's Stone was then only five years old!

I suggest that in the absence of sure answers the specimens should be described as "ex herb J B Stone" and the collector as "not known". Similar problems have arisen with other specimens that have passed through the hands of G S West (cf. 'Donor unknown').

[oldnick]

Yes - editing accordingly