Feedback request: Lamium galeobdolon subsp. galeobdolon (K001015536)

[Roger Horton]

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Specimen #373314

Taxon:	Labiatae: Lamium galeobdolon Crantz
Other name:	Lamiaceae: Lamium galeobdolon subsp. montanum (Pers.) Hayek
Filed in taxon folder:	Labiatae: Lamium galeobdolon Crantz
Collected by:	P C D C
Collection date:	19/5/1964
Locality:	Great Britain, VC39 Staffordshire, Ecton, SK092579, Ecton Bridge. Sycamore wood on basin 1st., (altitude 675ft)
Institution:	Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:	K001015536
Image: © Kew
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	[see message board comments re taxon Lamiastrum (formerly Lamium) galeobdolon subsp. montanum]

Documented by xmhcman on 10^th May 2014.

Edit history

date	user	change
11/05/2014	xmhcman	Added determination (orig): Lamium galeobdolon subsp. montanum
11/05/2014	xmhcman	Added note: [see message board comments re taxon Lamiastrum (formerly Lamium) galeobdolon subsp. montanum]
11/05/2014	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC39 Ecton, Ecton Bridge. Sycamore wood on basin 1st. Alt. 675' SK092579 (place)
11/05/2014	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC39 Ecton, Ecton Bridge. Sycamore wood on basin 1st. Alt. 675' SK092579 (place) altitude: 675ft
11/05/2014	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC39 Ecton, Ecton Bridge. Sycamore wood on basin 1st. SK092579 (place) altitude: 675ft
11/05/2014	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC39 Ecton, Ecton Bridge. Sycamore wood on basin 1st. Alt. 675' SK092579 (place) altitude: 675ft

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xmhcman wrote

Collector PCDC with the eastings/northings in the grid ref. the right way round! If this specimen is really from Ecton, where PCDC collected before, the preceding '111' is not the 100km square (it should be 43) nor the OS 50000 map (possibly 119). The VC should not be 79 (Selkirk) but 39 (Staffs).

[David Price]

This (VC39) seems to be the correct Ecton - the jeweller's label says "Ecton Hill, shade near Wetton turning."

The plant is more likely to be Lamiastrum (formerly Lamium) galeobdolon subsp. montanum than subsp. galeobdolon (see New Atlas).

PCDC doesn't appear in the 1969 Kew Staff list.

[Roger Horton]

I have added 'Lamium galeobdolon subsp. montanum' as an alternative, database won't accept Lamiastrum.

PCDC/MMC are certainly well acquainted with geological terms. On sheet 368840 there is a reference to 'Reef 1st crest behind Lees Farm'.