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ml.roberts



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Verbascum blattaria (K001014434) Reply with quote

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Specimen #374634

Taxon:Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum blattaria L. ("Moth Mullein")
confirmed by Svante Samuel Murbeck 1936
Filed in taxon folder:Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum blattaria L. ("Moth Mullein")
Collected by:Lewis Weston Dillwyn
Collection date:1806
Locality:Great Britain, VC41 Glamorganshire
ex herb:Dawson Turner
Sir William Jackson Hooker
Institution:Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:K001014434
Image:
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Verbascum blattaria herbarium specimen from VC41 Glamorganshire in 1806 by Lewis Weston Dillwyn.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

Documented by ml.roberts on 9th June 2014.

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dateuserchange
10/06/2014ml.robertsDeleted determination (orig): Verbascum blattaria
10/06/2014ml.robertsAdded determination (conf): Verbascum blattaria on 1936
10/06/2014ml.robertsDeleted note: ! Sr Murback 1936
1 Mr P Ashford
10/06/2014ml.robertsDeleted locality: GB Dilwyn, near Dilwyn SO4154 (place)
10/06/2014ml.robertsAdded locality: GB VC41
10/06/2014ml.robertsDeleted provenance: exherb S Turner [illegible]
10/06/2014ml.robertsAdded collector: Lewis Weston Dillwyn
10/06/2014ml.robertsAdded provenance: exherb Dawson Turner [illegible]
10/06/2014ml.robertsAdded determiner: Prof Svante Samuel Murbeck

Specimen #374658

Taxon:Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum blattaria L. ("Moth Mullein")
Filed in taxon folder:Scrophulariaceae: Verbascum blattaria L. ("Moth Mullein")
Collected by:John Pitchford
Locality:
Institution:Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:K001014434
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits

Documented by ml.roberts on 10th June 2014.

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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ml.roberts wrote
County given as Glamorganshire but I can only locate a place called Dilwyn in VC36


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the herbarium should be D[awson] Turner, and determiner Sv[ante] [Samuel] Murbeck confirming (!) taxon.

I think this sheet has defeated the Kew label stickers as there appear to be two specimens. As Dillwyn is a surname perhaps the left hand plant is collected by Lewis Weston Dillwyn (1778 - 1855), and that on the right (1) is from John Pitchford (1737? - 1803) . Neither gentleman has any other sheets I can find to check against, although their names are in the database!
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