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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:14 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Phlomis (K001023032) Reply with quote

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Specimen #379702

Taxon:Lamiaceae: Phlomis L.

Phlomis ferruginea / tenori

Filed in taxon folder:Lamiaceae: Phlomis L.
Collected by:Urbain Audibert
Collection date:1828
Locality:Cultivated France, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, Tonella, Tarascon sur Ariege, Hort. Tonella [Audibert's nursery => Tonella, Tarascon sur Ariege]
ex herb:George Bentham
Institution:Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:K001023032
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Phlomis  herbarium specimen from Tonella, Tarascon sur Ariege, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence in 1828 by Urbain Audibert.
Filing note:Phlomis ferruginea

Documented by oldnick on 12th October 2014.

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dateuserchange
14/02/2015tom humphreyDeleted note: 'P tenori / ferruginea'
14/02/2015tom humphreyDeleted locality: Tonella, Hort Tonella [illegible]
14/02/2015tom humphreyAdded locality: (cultivated) FR FR-U-04 Tonella, Tarascon sur Ariege, Hort. Tonella [Audibert's nursery => Tonella, Tarascon sur Ariege]
14/02/2015tom humphreyDeleted collector: Urbain Audibert [illegible]
14/02/2015tom humphreyAdded collector: Urbain Audibert
14/02/2015tom humphreyAdded collection date: 1828
14/02/2015tom humphreyAdded determiner's note: Phlomis ferruginea / tenori

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oldnick wrote
The names Audibert & Tonella suggest France & Spain. However I admit they're probably names of authors rather than collector and place


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is Urbain Audibert a nurseryman of Tarascon, who collected with Bentham in the Pyrenees. A specimen of his in the Herbarium at Edinburgh is labeled 'Hort Jonelle' but I cannot find that on any map!
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I read it as Tonelle / Tonella but suspect the author of a plant or textbook / flora
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Tonella' was his nursery, near Tarascon sur Ariege

see

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=vA5SAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA291&lpg=PA291&dq=Tonella,+Audibert&source=bl&ots=BFvPPZkZF7&sig=4TojnSsyOol71s5ExlpjaobhFMk#v=onepage&q=Tonella%2C%20Audibert&f=false

the relevant exert of which google translates as

"A half league is found the famous nursery of Tonella, belonging to Audibert, botanist and farmer distinct."
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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