Feedback request: Linaria vulgaris (200705151604_0542)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #250788

Taxon:	Scrophulariaceae: Linaria vulgaris Mill. ("Common Toadflax")
Filed in taxon folder:	Scrophulariaceae: Linaria vulgaris Mill. ("Common Toadflax")
Collected by:	Eifion R Morgan
Collection date:	8/1960
Locality:	Great Britain, VC44 Carmarthenshire, Llanwrda, SN735315, river (gravel side) 'grid ref 735135' - Llanwrda inferred., (altitude 200ft)
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	seeds/fruits

Documented by qgroom on 9^th February 2008.

Checked by wonastow

Edit history

date	user	change
18/03/2008	qgroom	Deleted locality: GB VC44 altitude: 200ft
18/03/2008	qgroom	Added locality: GB VC41, river (gravel side) SN735135 (col) altitude: 200ft
18/03/2008	qgroom	Deleted collector: E R Morgan
18/03/2008	qgroom	Added collector: Eifion R Morgan
04/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC41, river (gravel side) SN735135 (col) altitude: 200ft
04/11/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC44, river (gravel side) [grid ref '135135' or '735135', alt 200 - metres or feet]
04/11/2014	wonastow	Deleted locality: GB VC44, river (gravel side) [grid ref '135135' or '735135', alt 200 - metres or feet]
04/11/2014	wonastow	Added locality: GB VC44, river (gravel side) alt 200 feet. SN735315 (col)
04/11/2014	wonastow	Added attribute flowerField: fruiting
04/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC44, river (gravel side) alt 200 feet. SN735315 (col)
04/11/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC44 Llanwrda, river (gravel side) alt 200 feet. 'grid ref 735135' - Llanwrda inferred. SN735315 (col) altitude: 200ft
05/11/2014	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC44 Llanwrda, river (gravel side) alt 200 feet. 'grid ref 735135' - Llanwrda inferred. SN735315 (col) altitude: 200ft
05/11/2014	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC44 Llanwrda, river (gravel side) 'grid ref 735135' - Llanwrda inferred. SN735315 (col) altitude: 200ft

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

No site name - 'Carms 735135' (OR 135135). If grid ref is taken as SN735135, this is right on the Carms/Glam boundary NW of Ystradgynlais (alt over 500 ft), though if taken as ST135735, its in Glam between Cardiff & Wenvoe (alt around 200ft)! If however taken as SN135135 it's in Pembs, E of Narberth, towards the Carms boundary (alt around 500 ft). I notice Morgan has 30 h@h specimens, all but 1 from Carms, and http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/270470/ is comparable with this one. I think the heights are in metres not feet, and the initial '1' of the grid refs is continental, looking like '7' ........?

[David Price]

Having looked at other of Morgan's gatherings with similar coordinates (which have been interpreted as SN and place him beside the Tywi near Llwyn y brain 3 km north-east of Llanwrda) I feel sure that this label bears an erroneous transposition of digits and should be read as SN735315

Height is in feet.

[Roger Horton]

A good observation, David! There is a small set of such ER Morgan sheets, all labeled altitude 200 (feet) VC CARMS (44). Checking them in CUCAERA for altitude and VC, the suggested transposition results in altitudes all ~200ft, and locations firmly within VC44.

GR after transposition (GR as per label):
this sheet SN735315 217 feet VC44 (SN735135 614 feet VC41)
241515 SN736315 217 feet VC44 (SN736135 577 feet VC41/44)
263539 SN735317 197 feet VC44 (SN735137 571 feet VC41/44)
263594 SN735314 210 feet VC44 (SN735134 600 feet VC41)

This would bring Morgan's collections all within the Towy valley.

[oldnick]

Thanks! All now re-edited accordingly