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[oldnick]

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Specimen #328804

Taxon:	Fabaceae: Trifolium hybridum L. ("Alsike Clover")
Filed in taxon folder:	Fabaceae: Trifolium hybridum L. ("Alsike Clover")
Collected by:	Dr John (Joannis) Fraser
Collection date:	9/1890
Locality:	Great Britain, VC39 Staffordshire, Langley, SO98, [? see message board]
ex herb:	Mr Allan Octavian Hume Botanical Exchange Club of The British Isles
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Documented by johned on 13^th November 2011.

Edit history

date	user	change
18/07/2012	wonastow	Deleted collector: James Fraser
18/07/2012	wonastow	Added collector: John Fraser
18/07/2012	wonastow	Added provenance: exherb Mr Allan Octavian Hume
18/07/2012	wonastow	Deleted locality: GB VC39 [illegible]
18/07/2012	wonastow	Added locality: GB VC39 Langley [illegible]
18/07/2012	wonastow	Deleted collector: John Fraser
18/07/2012	wonastow	Added collector: Dr John (Joannis) Fraser
05/11/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC39 Langley [illegible]
05/11/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC39 Langley, [? see message board] SO98 (place)
05/11/2014	oldnick	Added provenance: exherb (Botanical Exchange Club of The British Isles)

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oldnick wrote

Langley? Written more clearly on 'twin' sheet http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234808. Langley near Oldbury seems to be right on the boundary of Staffs, SO990883

[Roger Horton]

Interestingly sheet 251284 has a similar written label with a printed one stuck over the top.
The printed label reports three collections, the last from Langley, Staffordshire, by John Fraser, September 1890. In 1864 Fraser won a silver medal in the British Botanical Competition for his collection of Staffordshire plants, so one would hope he knew were the boundary was!

Strictly, Langley is VC37 Worcestershire, but near the Staffs boundary, and not far from Dudley, which was an exclave of Worcs in Staffs! Perhaps someone knows how the county floras dealt with this situation.

[Roger Horton]

Flora of Staffordshire: ES Edees 1972, has a gazetteer which mentions two Langleys:
Langley (Lower Penn) SO8696 (where there's Langley Hall, on Langley Rd to Wolverhampton),
Langley Lawn SJ8406 (currently a farm).

The Flora of Staffordshire: James E Bagnall 1891, is a supplement to J Botany XXXIX. It locates plant records by river catchments, (3) being the Trent, and lists:

Ranunculus arvensis L. (3) near Langley; (p. 6)
Prunus insititia Huds. (3) Langley, Fraser. (p. 18)
Lathraea squamaria L. (3) Langley Meadows; (p. 46)

Catchments are difficult to spot on a map, but Bagnall puts Lower Penn in (4) Severn, whereas Brewood ~5km NE of Langley Lawn is (3). Perhaps this suggests Fraser's Langley is Langley Lawn.

Bagnell certainly knew the VC boundary well, as he includes two records from Harbourne [sic] a 'peninsula' of VC39 Staffs, but none from neighbouring Quinton VC37 Worcs, or Edgbaston VC38 Warks!!