Feedback request: Serratula tinctoria (4150)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #230555

Taxon:	Asteraceae: Serratula tinctoria L. ("Saw-wort")
Filed in taxon folder:	Asteraceae: Serratula tinctoria L. ("Saw-wort")
Collection date:	7/1879
Locality:	Great Britain, VC15 East Kent, Norton, TQ95, 'Hedge Kent Norton Lees' [??]
ex herb:	Mr Charles Bailey Mr John Hardy
Institution:	Manchester Museum (MANCH)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by pilaira on 8^th January 2007.

Edit history

date	user	change
03/01/2015	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC15,VC16, hedge
03/01/2015	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC15 Norton, 'Hedge Kent Norton Lees' [??]
03/01/2015	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted provenance: exherb Mr John Hardy
03/01/2015	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added provenance: exherb Mr John Hardy

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

Date & site name are unclear, and it seems unlikely that J Hardy had any specimens from Kent. Norton / Norton Ash is between Sittingbourne & Faversham

[oldnick]

Apologies - he has about 10 specimens from Kent. Could also be read as Horton? This is a recurring place-name in Kent, for instance between Ashford & Folkestone, where Horton Priory & The Lees, Sellindge, are adjacent

[Tom Humphrey]

Another option might be Norton Lees in VC57 (now part of the outskirts of Sheffield) - a previous curator appears to have read it that way as the sheet is annotated with a pencilled '57'.


OS Grid reference SK353839

There is a 'Kent House Close' and a 'Kent Wood' a mile or so to the SE (near Ridgeway).

[oldnick]

Yes I see your sites at SK406814. There's an interweb reference to 'Kent House Eckington', but that is further away, and Hardy has only 3 Derbyshire specimens, from further still - however he has 27 specimens from SW Yorks, including 5 from Sheffield. The poor legibility of the sheet including date doesn't help.