Feedback request: Inula helenium (200705171038_3662)

[keith barnett]

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Specimen #263308

Taxon:	Asteraceae: Inula helenium L. ("Elecampane")
Filed in taxon folder:	Asteraceae: Inula helenium L. ("Elecampane")
Collected by:	Henry Haselfoot Haines
Collection date:	8/1917
Locality:	Great Britain, VC9 Dorset, Lulworth, SY88
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
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Documented by alex lockton following initial work by keith barnett on 28^th July 2008.

Edit history

date	user	change
03/04/2009	alex lockton	Deleted note: no collector named
03/04/2009	alex lockton	Deleted locality: [illegible]
03/04/2009	alex lockton	Added locality: GB VC9 Lulworth [illegible]
03/04/2009	alex lockton	Added collector: Henry Haselfoot Haines

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keith barnett wrote

I see this location occasionally, any ideas? Isleworth with an old/odd spelling ? Why would Haines' name be there, since I'm told by you that this isn't his writing?

[David Price]

Lulworth

[Chris Liffen]

The attribution of the 'Haines sheets' is indeed somewhat polemical. The specimens listed at H@H range from 1881 through to 1944. According to the information in the H@H database, HHH's dates are 1867 -1945, and that from "1888 to 1919 he was Conservator of Forests for India , so it is unlikely that he could have collected in Britain during this period."
That was why I sent some jpgs of the writing to Richard Gornall to ask if the writing matched with that on sheets in the Leicester collections. He said that it did not.
There is one interesting Haines specimen that has completely different handwriting - namely http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234869/ ; on this specimen the details and the name are in the same script.