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oldnick



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:59 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Carex canescens (1133991) Reply with quote

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Specimen #390366

Taxon:Carex canescens L.
Other name:Cyperaceae: Carex curta Gooden. ("White Sedge")
Filed in taxon folder:Carex canescens L.
Collected by:David Moore
Collection date:6/1856
Locality:Ireland, VCH39 Co. Antrim, Lough Neagh, J17, In a boggy wood by the side of Lough Neagh at Salchin 'Co Derry' [actually Co Antrim, see message board]
communicated:Sir William Turner Thiselton Dyer
Institution:Natural History Museum (BM)
Accession number:1133991
Image:Carex canescens herbarium specimen from Lough Neagh, VCH39 Co. Antrim in 1856 by David Moore.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by siandef on 9th April 2015.

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dateuserchange
15/09/2015oldnickDeleted locality: IE VCH40 Jalckin, side of Lough Neaph
15/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: IE Lough Neagh, 'In a boggy wood by the side of Lough Neagh at Salchin Co Derry'
15/09/2015oldnickDeleted locality: IE Lough Neagh, 'In a boggy wood by the side of Lough Neagh at Salchin Co Derry'
15/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: IE VCH39 Lough Neagh, In a boggy wood by the side of Lough Neagh at Salchin 'Co Derry' [actually Co Antrim, see message board] J17 (place)
16/02/2016chrisuDeleted provenance: exherb Sir William Turner Thiselton Dyer
16/02/2016chrisuAdded provenance: comm Sir William Turner Thiselton Dyer

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oldnick wrote
Lough Neagh as I know it isn't near Co Derry? Jalckin? Salchin?


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a stretch of the coast of Lough Neagh of about 10km, from just west of Toome to the mouth of the Ballinderry River, (grid ref. H98) which lies in County Derry, although I cannot locate the place name. There is a Salterstown Castle built by the Salters' Company in 1615, in the area called the 'Manor of Sal'.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Co. Derry" appears to be Moore's error.

References in Cybele Hibernica are to "a place on the shores of L. Neagh called the Selchin in the Parish of Glenavy."

Glenavy is in Co Antrim, near Crumlin.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this LINK works it should show Glenavy and point where the historic Irish OS 6" map has Selshan Harbour.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done! Note the proximity to Ballinderry which was probably at the root of the error.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent and yes the map link works
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