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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Artemisia absinthium (25076) Reply with quote

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Specimen #347285

Taxon:Asteraceae: Artemisia absinthium L. ("Wormwood")
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Artemisia absinthium L. ("Wormwood")
Collected by:Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian Harris Teall (Dulwich College)
Collection date:8/1890
Locality:Great Britain, VC5 South Somerset, Minehead, SS94, Near
ex herb:Dulwich College
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Artemisia absinthium herbarium specimen from Minehead, VC5 South Somerset in 1890 by Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian  Harris Teall (Dulwich College).
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by xmhcman on 23rd November 2012.

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16/01/2016<system> (minor automatic edit)Added collector: Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian Harris Teall (Dulwich College)
16/01/2016<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted collector: Dr Sir Jethro Harris Teall (J H P)

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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oldnick wrote
Question re collector: If Teall collected 7 specimens from Minehead in 8/1890, and labelled them with his initials, then why does J H Teesdale's name appear in the same handwriting on http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/364182/ Or did they holiday together, and yet fail to make a distinction between each others' collections? I realise similar difficulties have been looked at exhaustively on the noticeboard - http://herbariaunited.org/core/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0, and that nothing is impossible, perhaps including marriage between the two families - but wouldn't it be better to mark such sheets that are merely initialled, as 'illegible' - whether or not at the same time entering a putative name.


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Prof. Teall wrote this label as we have an example of his signature:



..and the British Geological Survey has another image HERE.

Our hope of identifying Prof., Sir Jethro Justinian Harris Teall as the 'J H T' collector seems to be based on sheet 351958 which I think is unfounded as I read it as 'Mrs J H Teall'. Are there any examples of Prof. Teall's name written in full on a label?

Search for '8/1890 VC5 South Somerset' returns both Elsie Teesdale (362121) and J H Teesdale (364182), so perhaps all the JHT collectors here are Teesdale rather than Teall. As the Tealls were expecting their first child in two months time they may have been at home in Dulwich!
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