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chrisu



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Mentha villosa (K001027823) Reply with quote

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Specimen #378082

Taxon:Lamiaceae: Mentha spicata x suaveolens = M. x villosa Huds. ("Apple-mint")
Filed in taxon folder:Lamiaceae: Mentha spicata x suaveolens = M. x villosa Huds. ("Apple-mint")
Collected by:William Bertram Turrill
Charles Edward Hubbard
Collection date:16/8/1944
Locality:Cultivated Great Britain, VC23 Oxfordshire, Woodstock, SP41, Cult. in "......." [label obscured], New Road.
Institution:Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:K001027823
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Mentha spicata x suaveolens = M. x villosa herbarium specimen from Woodstock, VC23 Oxfordshire in 1944 by William Bertram Turrill.
Filing note:glabrous form

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by chrisu on 1st September 2014.

Checked by oldnick

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01/09/2014chrisuAdded collector: Charles Edward Hubbard
21/09/2016oldnickDeleted locality:
21/09/2016oldnickAdded locality: (cultivated) GB VC23 Woodstock, Cult. in "......." [label obscured], New Road.

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chrisu wrote
collection label hidden by determiners note, my guess would be collected by Hubbard & Turrill in Woodstock area


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On 16/8/1944 Turrill and Hubbard were collecting together at Woodstock and Blenheim Palace, so they are highly likely to be the collectors here. Turrill was born in Woodstock, but I am not sure if he was living there in 1944.

Turrill has three specimens collected 4/6/1944 all recorded as from Woodstock, and weeds in garden at "Woodlands", New Road. At the time this would have been adjacent to Blenheim Station, the terminus on a branch line from Oxford. There looks to be the end of a house name on the label "...aven", but as New Road appears to have been redeveloped since the war this may be difficult to trace. Perhaps Turrill lived in New Road, or it was the starting point for excursions reached by train.
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be a 'twin' sheet of http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/379076/ but with the house-name looking different. That sheet was collected by Hubbard & Turrill, also from New Road, 16/8/1944; but a different house-name and a different determination by Graham
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