Feedback request: Lithospermum officinale (200705151025_9127)

[John Hughes]

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Specimen #270653

Taxon:	Boraginaceae: Lithospermum officinale L. ("Common Gromwell")
Filed in taxon folder:	Boraginaceae: Lithospermum officinale L. ("Common Gromwell")
Collected by:	Dr Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
Collection date:	9/1879
Locality:	Great Britain, VC3 South Devon, Hopes Nose, SX96
ex herb:	Dr Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	There must be a query on the collector, as the initials don't seem to be an exact match with those on other sheets collected by Dr. Jordan but I agree that he is the likeliest suspect.

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Documented by john hughes on 5^th February 2009.

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date	user	change
05/03/2010	john hughes	Added note: There must be a query on the collector, as the initials don't seem to be an exact match with those on other sheets collected by Dr. Jordan but I agree that he is the likeliest suspect.
05/03/2010	john hughes	Added collector: Dr Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
05/03/2010	john hughes	Added provenance: exherb Dr Robert Coane Roberts Jordan

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User comments about this sheet

john hughes wrote

Can anyone help with the collector, please? William Moyle Rogers has a good fit with time and place but the handwriting isn't an entirely 100% match.

[oldnick]

I definitely think R C R Jordan; however the initials look more like C R J (his father I think) who collected much earlier, but I would definitely say herb R C R J, and presumably collector too. Location usual for the Jordan family's July holidays.

[John Hughes]

H@H never sleeps! You post a query and get a helpful reply a year later. Many thanks for this. I agree Dr. RCR Jordan is the likeliest suspect but, having spent a happy half hour comparing the initials on this sheet with those on sheets definitely collected by him, I'm not 100% convinced so have put it in with a query. I don't think it was Charles James Rufus, one of three Jordan brothers. Many thanks to Chris Liffen for details on the Jordan dynasty, which he posted on 20/02/2010 at 10.17am.

Best wishes,

John

[Tom Humphrey]

I suspect this is not an RCRJ sheet. It's from Aberystwyth's collection, where most of the RCRJ specimens are from Birmingham University. To me, the initials don't look like a match.

There are many similar sheets from ABS which have remained unattributed, so I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

regards,

Tom