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Mike d'Apice
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject: Feedback request: Crocus vernus (16541) |
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Documented by mikedaps on 1st November 2009. Checked by mossysal Edit historydate | user | change |
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08/12/2009 | mikedaps | Added notes | 27/08/2012 | mossysal | Deleted note: J B Morrel possibly John Bowes Morrel (1873-1963) |
Specimen #281622 Taxon: | Iridaceae: Crocus vernus (L.) Hill ("Spring Crocus") |
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Filed in taxon folder: | Iridaceae: Crocus vernus (L.) Hill ("Spring Crocus") |
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Collected by: | Mr Thomas Clark |
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Collection date: | 1854
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Locality: | Great Britain, VC56 Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, SK54, Near Nottingham
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ex herb: | Mr Thomas Clark |
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Institution: | University of Birmingham (BIRM) |
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fruits/flowers: | mature flowers |
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Filing note: | Crocus purpureus |
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Inferred details are marked. Documented by mikedaps on 1st November 2009. Checked by mossysal Edit historyDocumented by mikedaps on 1st November 2009. Checked by mossysal Edit historyN.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names. Log-in to edit this sheet.
User comments about this sheet - mikedaps wrote
- Bottom left Label: The collector seems to be clearly listed as J B Morrel - I can find no trace of such a chap or any close variations - Anybody found him before / elsewhere or have I misread the seemingly clear writing?
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oldnick
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Amazingly I have heard of this person, name as spelt - There is a building named after him at York University, the J B Morrel library! Though I know nothing about him and did not know he was in any way a botanist. |
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Chris Liffen
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mossysal
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Mike d'Apice
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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On googling the name I hadn't noticed the Morrell's second 'L' seems to be optional - their aren't any J B Morrels in the 1891 census, but two J B Morrells, the other is a Jane B (b. 1874 a year after John) but born and still living at Belper, just 10 miles from Nottingham where specimen collected, while John was seemingly raised in Yorkshire, so Jane might have had the better opportunity if no, yet, known motive for collecting plants as a teenager... Guess John Bowes M the better bet pro temp: Added note. Thanks. Mike d'A |
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David Price
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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If the love of Flora burns in a teenager's breast, no other motive is required for collecting botanical specimens. I expect the alternative spelling of Morrell's name was careless rather than optional. What speaks in favour of Morrell is his Quakerism - Quaker collectors are highly represented in HST's herbarium. |
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Mike d'Apice
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Guess that confirms it - HST was educated at the Bootham (a Quaker) school, York so as John B M was also a Quaker, living in York a good bet he went there also, with HST a few years senior to him. The Bootham's Archive page details "Natural History Journal (1834-1902). The School’s Natural History Society is thought to be the oldest society of its kind in Britain, founded in 1834 by John Ford.": Presumably the pupils were required/encouraged or at least had the opportunity for Botanical collecting while there, JBM included. Mike d'A |
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