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mossysal



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Helleborus foetidus (8516) Reply with quote

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Specimen #284091

Taxon:Ranunculaceae: Helleborus foetidus L. ("Stinking Hellebore")
Filed in taxon folder:Ranunculaceae: Helleborus foetidus L. ("Stinking Hellebore")
Collected by:Mr Thomas Clark
Collection date:27/4/1842
Locality:Great Britain, VC6 North Somerset, Churchill, ST4459, About a quarter of a mile southward of Churchill turnpike on he eastern declivity of the road.
ex herb:Mr Harold Stuart Thompson
Mr Thomas Clark
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Helleborus foetidus herbarium specimen from Churchill, VC6 North Somerset in 1842 by Mr Thomas Clark.

Documented by mossysal on 7th December 2009.

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mossysal wrote
I make the month 4mo (which is a bit late) but curator has March? Advice please.


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It definitely reads 4 mo, and has well & truly gone to seed; also on an East-facing slope it could be nice & cool. I find many errors on those typed labels - but noticed it referred to a companion sheet which I could not find; although again I have found those sheets sometimes to be just the same collector but not the same location or date, having been listed just by the person doing the labels. I will have a further look, meanwhile I definitely prefer April.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucky find and interesting - the 'other' sheet is http://herbariaunited.org/sheets/BIRM/8515.jpg - a collection from same locality Apr 1917 by HST: 'Note forking in leaf tips in above leaf; compare leaf with extremely narrow leaf segments (6--8 mm only) in leaf of T.C.'s specn, 1842, from same locality" (see also 000020) note that this specimen is no. 000019'. This specimen has fruits, though small. So QED April I say.
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well-found!
And as you say, very interesting.
Thanks
Sarah
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