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[oldnick]

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Specimen #287730

Taxon:	Apiaceae: Apium graveolens L. ("Wild Celery")
Filed in taxon folder:	Apiaceae: Apium graveolens L. ("Wild Celery")
Collected by:	Charles James Rufus Jordan
Collection date:	8/1845
Locality:	Great Britain, VC3 South Devon, Newton Abbot, SX87, Newton Marshes [presumed Newton Abbot South Devon]
ex herb:	Dr Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by oldnick on 29^th January 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
29/01/2010	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB Newton, Marshes
29/01/2010	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC3,VC4 Newton, Marshes [presumed VC South Devon]
29/01/2010	oldnick	Deleted collector: C Jordan
29/01/2010	oldnick	Added collector: Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
21/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC3,VC4 Newton, Marshes [presumed VC South Devon]
21/12/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC3 Newton Abbot, Newton Marshes [presumed Newton Abbot South Devon]
21/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted collector: Robert Coane Roberts Jordan
21/12/2014	oldnick	Added collector: Charles James Rufus Jordan

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oldnick wrote

Could this be Newton South Devon? I found a Jordan collection from there http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/287474/ May 1845; though no collections of his from August. I also wondered about the signature/monogram; I know there were several Jordans, but have not found one with the initial C (or A) if that is what it is.

[Mike d'Apice]

Re Jordans - Suspect you've seen it but Ray Desmond's dictionary of Botanists of Brit isles lists at page 390 a "Jordan, Robert Coane Roberts (1825-90) " of teignmouth devon who contributed plant records for Teignmouth, Devon, so quiet near and 20 years old when collection made. Sometimes visible at:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=thmPzIltAV8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=dictionary+of+botanists+of+british&cd=1#v=onepage&q=jordan&f=false

Assume he's the same Robert Coane(?) Roberts Jordan aka(?) Dr RCR Jordan both listed in the collectors list. The Dr RCR Jordan specimens have the same monogram and there are specimens for jun and jul 45 both from Devon. Mike d'A

[oldnick]

Thanks Mike!

[oldnick]

From http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/293501/ etc I now see the collector is Charles James Rufus Jordan; and site is almost certainly in the Teignmouth area ie Newton Abbot

[Chris Liffen]

details of the Jordans were posted some time back
http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2730
also summarised here
http://www.meiosis.org.uk/botanists/robert-coane-roberts-jordan-1825-1890/