Feedback request: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis (14916)

[mossysal]

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Specimen #289495

Taxon:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Filed in taxon folder:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Collected by:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:	11/9/1883
Locality:	Great Britain, VC100 Clyde Islands, Bennan Head, NR92, Among oats at
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
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Documented by mossysal on 15^th February 2010.

Specimen #289496

Taxon:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Filed in taxon folder:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Collected by:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:	1882
Locality:	Great Britain, VC36 Herefordshire, Cowley Pool
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)

Documented by mossysal on 15^th February 2010.

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date	user	change
28/10/2016	chrisu	Added provenance: exherb Rev. Augustin Ley

Specimen #289497

Taxon:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Filed in taxon folder:	Violaceae: Viola tricolor subsp. saxatilis auct., non (F.W.Schmidt) Simonk.
Collected by:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:	28/6/1882
Locality:	Great Britain, VC36 Herefordshire, Deerfold Forest, SO36
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
notes:	= V. contempta

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Documented by mossysal on 15^th February 2010.

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mossysal wrote

Have drawn a blank on Cowley Pool,Herefords for #2. There is a possibility that both the last two specimens are from the same date (28/6/1882) but it is not certain. If so Ley was in the Deerfold/Brampton Bryan area that day. Also can't read note (before "I think") in bottom RH corner! No Jordan sp. seems to match it!

[oldnick]

I would say they are the same date, I have seen cut-up Ley labels like this before. Although I haven't investigated, the label before snipping would have read 'Heathy ground, near Cowley pool, Deerfold Forest' suggesting a single site? I read the note as 'V lepida Jord I think E D!' Stace 2nd edition says of V tricolor ssp tricolor: 'perennial plants occurring in hilly areas of the N have been referred to ssp saxatilis (V lepida Jord) but probably are variants of ssp tricolor or its hybrids with V arvensis or V lutea'. V x contempta is V tricolor x V arvensis.

[mossysal]

Very many thanks. I agree and have combined the two entries.
I spent ages looking in CTW, a Jordan paper on line and even B & H before giving up on V. lepida! Stace is usually not very good at giving earlier synonyms (Have you ordered Stace 3 yet?)
Sarah