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mossysal



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Poa alpina (160709_220) Reply with quote

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Specimen #293185

Taxon:Poaceae: Poa alpina L. ("Alpine Meadow-grass")
Filed in taxon folder:Poaceae: Poa alpina L. ("Alpine Meadow-grass")
Collection date:7/1841
Locality:Great Britain, VC88 Mid Perthshire, Creag Uigeach, NN73, Rocky Ledges
Craigalleach
Perth
ex herb:Mr William Gardiner
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-24931
Image:Poa alpina herbarium specimen from Creag Uigeach, VC88 Mid Perthshire in 1841.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits
Tags:herb label: white Ex Herb. William Gardiner, jun., Dundee.

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Documented by lowfatspread on 26th March 2010.

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17/04/2010mossysalDeleted locality: GB VC87,VC88,VC89 craigalleach, Rocky Ledges
Craigalleach
Perth
17/04/2010mossysalAdded locality: GB VC88 Creag Uigeach, Rocky Ledges
Craigalleach
Perth

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mossysal wrote
Could this be Craig Hulich NN895378 ? There is another sheet from the same month for Craigalleach. Or what about Creag na Caillich? And they say Welsh names are difficult!


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Mike d'Apice



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No help whatsoever but proves Scottish names are terrible! From Googling "Craigalleach" got
"with on the summit of Craigalleach (upwards of 3000 feet high), when he had the misfortune to sprain his right ankle severely, and " what I then suffered in ..."
which comes from:- William Gardiner, Author Of “The Flora Of Forfarshire” (1848)
Author: Alexander P. Stevenson
DOI: 10.1080/03746601709469315
I can't get the full text of this to see where it is but seems he has previously spelt a mountain as "Craigalleach" and if so.. a full text viewable book "The new botanist's guide to the localities of the rarer plants of ..., Volume 2" at http://www.archive.org/stream/newbotanistsgui00watsgoog/newbotanistsgui00watsgoog_djvu.txt

gives a few options for it all in Perthshire, but states: " I cannot say whether Chealleach, Craigalleach, Craig-na-cailleach, Craig Cal-liach, and Craig Chailloch are all the same identical hill, but it seems not unlikely to be the &ct." But then doesn't say where it is! Have fun searching!
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also http://herbariaunited.org/core/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11904 Gardiner has numerou specimens labelled Craigalleach Co. Perth, including several from July 1841
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