Feedback request: Armeria maritima (17660)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #291398

Taxon:	Plumbaginaceae: Armeria maritima (Mill.) Willd.
Filed in taxon folder:	Plumbaginaceae: Armeria maritima (Mill.) Willd.
Collected by:	John Ansell
Collection date:	1843
Locality:	Great Britain, VC58 Cheshire, Bidston Moss, SJ293910
ex herb:	Mary Ann Brooks
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	Bidston Marsh [?=Bidston Moss SJ 293 910]

Documented by mossysal on 8^th March 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
19/05/2010	mossysal	Deleted locality: GB VC58 Bidston SJ293910 (place)
19/05/2010	mossysal	Added locality: GB VC58 Bidston Moss SJ293910 (place)
19/05/2010	mossysal	Deleted collector: Mary Ann Brooks
19/05/2010	mossysal	Added collector: John Ansell
19/05/2010	mossysal	Added provenance: exherb Mary Ann Brooks

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oldnick wrote

Does this involve a collector named ??J Ansell... (l-hand label), or did MAB collect in Cheshire??

[mossysal]

Well spotted - there are some of MAB's sheets(correct?) collected by Ansell
However the other Bidston marsh sheet of MAB's http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3139 has some interesting and relevant comments by Wonastow.

{That sheet is also much less convincing as BIDSTON. (Looks more like Balston but I seem to remember having trouble locating anything approaching that spelling) If it is Bidston it is not in the "salt belt" however, though as it is very low-lying could be saline.}
Sarah

[oldnick]

thanks! I now can't find Alston on database!

[David Price]

"Bidston is not in the salt belt", but see -

Bidston Moss - LNR
The construction of a sea wall in 1847 along the eastern limit of Wallasey Pool effectively destroyed the salt marsh at Bidston. ...
www.wirral.gov.uk/lgcl/100006/.../content_0000935.html -

I believe this specimen is coll John Ansell, ex herb Mary Ann Brooks.

[mossysal]

Thanks to both.
Looking again at the map I wonder how the NNR can still exist under pressure from urban development and the M53/Mersey tunnel! I shall be a few miles away today so might try to take a look. Can't make the other MAB Bidston sheet to look like Ansell's writing, though, so I guess she did go there herself a couple of years later.

Bidston Moss Nature Reserve
This triangular piece of land sandwiched between the River Birket, the M53 and A554 was designated as a Local Nature Reserve in 1994.

Although vastly changed from the salt marsh of the original mossland it is an important wildlife site in North Wirral, particularly for its ponds, reedbed and marshland.
Approximately eight hectares in size.....