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hallucigenia



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Inula conyzae (30805) Reply with quote

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Specimen #300913

Taxon:Asteraceae: Inula conyzae (Griess.) Meikle ("Ploughman's-spikenard")
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Inula conyzae (Griess.) Meikle ("Ploughman's-spikenard")
Collected by:Mr Isaiah Waterloo Nicholson Keys
Collection date:1851
Locality:Great Britain, VC3 South Devon, Plymouth, SX45, Stoke Damerel
ex herb:John Gilbert Baker
Prof George Stephen West
Institution:University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:Inula conyzae herbarium specimen from Plymouth, VC3 South Devon in 1851 by Mr Isaiah Waterloo Nicholson Keys.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

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Documented by hallucigenia on 11th June 2010.

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13/06/2010hallucigeniaAdded locality: GB VC3 Plymouth, Stoke Damerel,
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13/06/2010hallucigeniaAdded collector: Mr Isaiah Waterloo Nicholson Keys

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hallucigenia wrote
I think the date is 1851 but it could be 1857. also the place name is very faint [Sark?], and collector ideas?


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David Price



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stoke Damerel, Plymouth, Devon
I W N Keys
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again.
I collected a specimen the other day which I cannot trace;
80-100cm tall flower spike, no leaves at base or on stem, two dozen or so greenish flowers on a fairly loose spike on the top 10-15cm, the flowers have six equally spaced petals pointed at the tip, it could I suppose be a parasite, it is in the press at the moment but I intend to find another and photograph it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds interesting. Why do you think it may be a parasite? What is its habitat? Is it a monocot? It sounds as if it could be an Ornithogalum - have a look at O. pyrenaicum http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/276615/?image or try Quentin Groom's key http://www.botanicalkeys.co.uk/flora/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David
Parasite bit of a wild guess because it has no leaves of any sort, and lots of dead wood/ fungus here, but I see looking again in my books that it could be O.pyenaicum although the picture [B+W] shows lanceolate leaves, but lasting but not long lasting, I know of a large area of them in a lane so I will go and look tomorrow and examine the leaves [if any] closely.
There is a very odd plant that grows by the river in very wet places never more then 4-5 cm high deep blue / purple no leaves in very large dense clumps often under water in winter floods, we intend to try and find it [not hard] next time we visit Prayssac.
Lots of varied Orchards in flower now, it helps that this is a plant conservation area and the verges are cut very late and only one cut wide.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were right it is O.pyenaicum I photographed the large clump and carefully went over the ground by the stem bases but no leaves or remains of such, as a double check I will study the seed pods when formed.
Chris
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