Feedback request: Sorbus aucuparia (35477)

[chrisu]

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Specimen #306086

Taxon:	Rosaceae: Sorbus domestica L. ("Service-tree")
Filed in taxon folder:	Rosaceae: Sorbus aucuparia L. ("Rowan")
Collected by:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Collection date:	11/6/1901
Locality:	Great Britain, VC34 West Gloucestershire, Pighole, ST59, Shore cliff
ex herb:	Rev. Augustin Ley
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:

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Documented by chrisu on 20^th August 2010.

Reviewed by David Price (wonastow)

Edit history

date	user	change
22/08/2010	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC34 Pighole, ? cliff
22/08/2010	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC34 Pighole, Shore cliff
30/10/2015	wonastow	Deleted determination (orig): Sorbus aucuparia
30/10/2015	wonastow	Added determination (orig): Sorbus domestica
30/10/2015	wonastow	Added collector: Rev. Augustin Ley

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User comments about this sheet

chrisu wrote

anyone make out the name of the cliff please?

[Mike d'Apice]

There's another Ley specimen http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/300082/?image also Pig Hole where the cliff name is clearer and been interpreted as "Shorn Cliff" which puts it at ST 541 993... on the River Wye. Can't find any references to any places along that stretch of cliff called "Pig Hole" I suppose it couldn't be "in a big hole" could it??

[oldnick]

This may be S domestica?? Query sent to David Price.

[mossysal]

Pighole is probably at ST562941 and could it read shore cliff?
Ley collected at Sedbury just about 1km away that day.

[chrisu]

I think I shall go with shore cliff

[oldnick]

Difficult but interesting. Shorn Cliffs and Pighole Pill are equally near Sedbury. Maybe Trevor Evans knows the answer, or Mark Kitchen? Shorn Cliffs are just south of Tintern, on the opposite bank of the Wye, on Offa's Dyke path. Pighole Pill is on the Severn, north of Sedbury Cliffs near Cumberland Wood; there appears to be an interesting underground stream hence the hole(s)? Both limestone I assume. Shorn Cliffs better suits Nennius' famous 9th Century location for S domestica ('Marvels of Britain'), though both could. Maybe a clue will turn up on another sheet.