Feedback request: Orobanche minor (9573)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #278225

Taxon:	Orobanchaceae: Orobanche minor Sm. ("Common Broomrape")
Filed in taxon folder:	Orobanchaceae: Orobanche minor Sm. ("Common Broomrape")
Collected by:	William West
Collection date:	29/6/1890
Locality:	Great Britain, VC17 Surrey, Dorking, TQ14, clover fields on chalk, (altitude 300ft)
ex herb:	William West (Bradford) Prof George Stephen West
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by keith barnett on 17^th July 2009.

Edit history

date	user	change
21/10/2010	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted collector: William West Jnr
21/10/2010	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added collector: William West
14/09/2015	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC17 Dorking, clover fields on chalk, alt. 300 ft.
14/09/2015	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC17 Dorking, clover fields on chalk altitude: 300ft
14/09/2015	chrisu	Deleted provenance: exherb William West
14/09/2015	chrisu	Added provenance: exherb William West (Bradford)

Specimen #278226

Taxon:	Orobanchaceae: Orobanche minor Sm. ("Common Broomrape")
Filed in taxon folder:	Orobanchaceae: Orobanche minor Sm. ("Common Broomrape")
Locality:	Great Britain, VC11 South Hampshire, Kingston, SU10
ex herb:	Prof George Stephen West
Institution:	University of Birmingham (BIRM)
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	no collection date

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by keith barnett on 17^th July 2009.

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oldnick wrote

Kingston collector's name reads like 'G Browner'???

[Mike d'Apice]

There's a clearer (just) one from Kingston with the same script ascribed to Mr Joseph Edward Lousley :

http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/230271/

As West died 1919 and only seen these two J E L specimens before 1923 - whereafter most JELs looked at are typed and the script on the few that aren't look completely different..

http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/274953/?image

or

http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/255401/

so guess who ever yours is, its not Lousley... if you get an ID for it suggest you amend 230271 as well...

[David Price]

We often have no way of knowing whether a label has been written by the collector himself or, where the specimen has been distributed by an exchange club or other intermediary, by someone else; so in this case and the few others like it.

I think the collector is James Alexander Brewer (1818-1886).

[oldnick]

I will definitely check out Brewer.
2 other mystifying examples of signature, see http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5319
Suggestions so far - 'Browner??' 'ODonnelly??' and Lousley!! (the first 2 don't exist and the 3rd is impossible.
Also:
a number of H@H specimens with similar signature/ possible Hampshire AND/OR Kingston:
J Benbow (Kingston & Christchurch Hants)
a - c) X3 named Benbow 1883 no photos, 1 ‘Kingston Lane’ http://herbariaunited.org/specimensearch/?collector=J+Benbow&colid=3209&search=search
d) Kingston Hants 1873 no photo ‘collector illegible, looks like P B ??Owousen’
http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/207316/
e) Tantalizing ‘Kingston Lee’
http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/290255/
f) Kingston http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/278226/
g) Kingston 1874 no photo ‘collector W Blossu ???’ http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/211033/
h) Kingston SURREY 1845 W D Biden (could be the one???) http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/270970/
(these notes put on the Sarcocornia reply also)