Feedback request: Vicia hirsuta (2928)

[Mike d'Apice]

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Specimen #311752

Taxon:	Fabaceae: Vicia hirsuta (L.) Gray ("Hairy Tare")
Filed in taxon folder:	Fabaceae: Vicia hirsuta (L.) Gray ("Hairy Tare")
Collected by:	John Wilton Haines
Collection date:	1911 possibly 30/5
Locality:	Great Britain, VC34 West Gloucestershire, Newent, SO72
ex herb:	John Wilton Haines
Institution:	Gloucester City Museum (GLR)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	Also buds and seed pods. Collected in May but day/year and location not clear.

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by mikedaps on 14^th December 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
15/12/2010	mikedaps	Deleted determination (det): Vicia hirsuta
15/12/2010	mikedaps	Added determination (orig): Vicia hirsuta
15/12/2010	mikedaps	Deleted note: Also buds and seed pods.
15/12/2010	mikedaps	Added note: Also buds and seed pods. Collected in May but day/year and location not clear.
15/12/2010	mikedaps	Deleted collection date: 5/1930
18/12/2010	mikedaps	Added collection date: 1911 possibly 30/5
20/12/2010	mikedaps	Deleted locality:
20/12/2010	mikedaps	Added locality: GB VC34 Newent

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User comments about this sheet

mikedaps wrote

Can't make out where from, if that's what it details below the date. Also date looks more like "Mon(th) May (18)80" which would make JWH very young as seemingly born in 1875, hence gone for May (19)30. ( I've added a J W Haines topic on the Collectors Message Board suggesting the Ex Herb J W Haines haines is John WILTON Haines 1875-1960.) Any clearer reading of date and or loc?

[oldnick]

Haines often put the weekday and I read it as Monday May 30, but strange he ommitted the year - perhaps knowing the weekday it can be calculated! I gave up on the place, it looks almost but not quite like Newent.

[Mike d'Apice]

If Mon(day) not Mon(th) ended up with a possibility every 7 years or so guess best left blank, likewise for loc. Amended, thanks.

[mossysal]

I am sure it is Newent - there are 14 other specimens from there on the database. The sheets we have so far are all from the period 1910 t0 1913 which suggests he collected this specimen on a Monday in 1911!

[Mike d'Apice]

Thought I'd already added Newent... Amended now. Thanks.