Feedback request: Salsola kali subsp. tragus (2212)

[hallucigenia]

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Specimen #311488

Taxon:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali subsp. tragus (L.) Nyman
Filed in taxon folder:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali subsp. tragus (L.) Nyman
Collected by:	Dr Gustavus A Ornano St Brody
Collection date:	9/1865
Locality:	Great Britain, VC33 East Gloucestershire, Gloucester, SO81, Waste ground, Banks of Severn
Institution:	Gloucester City Museum (GLR)
Accession number:	2212
Image:
fruits/flowers:	no flowers
notes:	"introduced"
Filing note:	Salsola pestifera

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by hallucigenia on 30^th November 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
01/12/2010	hallucigenia	Deleted locality: GB VC33 Sevenhampton, Waste ground SP030217 (place)precision 3km altitude: 206m
01/12/2010	hallucigenia	Added locality: GB VC33 Gloucester, Waste ground, Banks of Severn SP030217 (place)precision 3km altitude: 206m
04/08/2016	chrisu	Deleted locality: GB VC33 Gloucester, Waste ground, Banks of Severn SP030217 (place)precision 3km altitude: 206m
04/08/2016	chrisu	Added locality: GB VC33 Gloucester, Waste ground, Banks of Severn

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hallucigenia wrote

I guess Sevenhampton not [river] Seven or beach etc.

[mossysal]

It is reaching a bit, but I think this is more likely to be in Gloucester itself. It is a wool alien so likely to be near the docks? (Plus other sheets of his from this month are from Gloucester city) There is definitely an "r" in Severn, so not Sevenhampton.

[David Price]

This is not a guessing game. If there is insufficient information on the label one is not entitled to manufacture it though it is permissible to adduce convincing circumstantial evidence.

http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/310961/ , also dated 9/1865, where the label says "Gloucester, SO81, on banks of the Severn nr Gloucester".

Fl. Glos. (1948) says of Salsola pestifera (as this taxon was then named) "Gloucester Docks and waste ground by the Severn and the Ship Canal, 1865, Hb Brody.

Spending an hour or so from time to time browsing H@H or the botanical literature of the past (Journal of Botany, the Phytologist, Proceedings of Botanical Societies of London and of Edinburgh) on-line is a useful way of familiarising oneself with the world of the botanists whose specimens we see here.