Feedback request: Rubus chloocladus (200705101720_3664)

[keith barnett]

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Specimen #268428

Taxon:	Rosaceae: Rubus chloocladus W.C.R. Watson
Other name:	Rosaceae: Rubus pubescens Weihe, non Raf.
Filed in taxon folder:	Rosaceae: Rubus chloocladus W.C.R. Watson
Collected by:	W Hbg ?
Collection date:	6/1891
Locality:	Hockheim / Allmendingen
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	seeds/fruits
notes:	allsn

Documented by hallucigenia following initial work by qgroom on 7^th December 2008.

Edit history

date	user	change
02/03/2009	keith barnett	Deleted locality: DE
02/03/2009	keith barnett	Added locality:
02/03/2009	keith barnett	Added attribute flowerField: flowering
28/04/2009	keith barnett	Added collection date: 1871
28/04/2009	keith barnett	Deleted attribute flowerField: flowering
28/04/2009	keith barnett	Added attribute flowerField: fruiting
19/11/2010	hallucigenia	Added note: allsn
30/11/2010	oldnick	Deleted locality:
30/11/2010	oldnick	Added locality: , Hockheim / Allmendingen
30/11/2010	oldnick	Added collector: (W Hbg ?)
30/11/2010	oldnick	Deleted collection date: 1871
30/11/2010	oldnick	Added collection date: 6/1891

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keith barnett wrote

presumably continental in origin? any information known?

[oldnick]

See http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/236610/ which has a similar label, with same collector's name, and also the illegible initials at the top - rightly or not, I took this as a British specimen.
Hockheim could be: Hochheim am Main, a town in Hesse, Germany
Hochheim, Thuringia, a municipality in Thuringia, Germany
Höchheim, a municipality in the district of Rhön-Grabfeld in Bavaria
There is a Hockenheim (race track) near Heidelberg
From what I can gather, the name Hockheim is an anglicised version, possibly used in the wine trade (hock).[/img]

[oldnick]

And to add another point! Although Allmendingen may conceivably be a person's name, there are numerous places of that name, in Germany & Switzerland, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allmendingen So maybe it's the illegible initials on the label that are the collector.

[David Price]

The BEC Rubus referee was Dr W O Focke (see wiki biog) and German material undoubtedly reached British batologists by his agency; see http://herbariaunited.org/specimensearch/?taxon=Rubus&taxonid=2608&collector=&colid=&role=prov&from=&to=&search=search&Country=DE&VC=all&place=&placeid=&Inst=all&search=search#searchlist

[oldnick]

Also, 'W Hbg' - could be Herberge (hostel or similar)!?