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mossysal



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Polypodium vulgare (210709_197) Reply with quote

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Specimen #304207

Taxon:Polypodiaceae: Polypodium cambricum L. ("Southern Polypody")
Filed in taxon folder:Polypodiaceae: Polypodium vulgare L. ("Polypody")
Collected by:Scriven
Locality:Ireland, VCH2 North Kerry, Killarney, V98
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-25977
Image:Polypodium cambricum herbarium specimen from Killarney, VCH2 North Kerry by Scriven.
Filing note:Polypodium vulgare agg.

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by nacs12 on 22nd July 2010.

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08/01/2011mossysalDeleted locality: [illegible]
08/01/2011mossysalAdded locality: GB VC64 Scriven SE348589 (place)
08/01/2011mossysalDeleted collector: Scriven
09/01/2011mossysalDeleted determination (orig): Polypodium vulgare
09/01/2011mossysalAdded determination (orig): Polypodium cambricum
09/01/2011mossysalDeleted locality: GB VC64 Scriven SE348589 (place)
09/01/2011mossysalAdded locality: IE VCH2 Killarney
09/01/2011mossysalAdded collector: Scriven

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mossysal wrote
This looks like P cambricum?


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David Price



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, but aren't sori too orbicular?
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen it "in the flesh" very often, but Page says it is the young sori which are more orbicular. & the serrate edges of the pinnae also suggest P cambricum. Do you know if the site is suitably calcareous?
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David Price



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scriven is close to Knaresboro' & very much in limestone (Permian) country.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect 'Scriven' (Scriver?) may be a collector name. There are two other specimens with legible Irish localities also apparently signed 'Scriven'.

http://herbariaunited.org/specimensearch/?collector=Scriven+Scriven&colid=19063&search=search
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mossysal



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course! Thanks, Tom. [Got carried away by a poss. connection between Knaresborough and Killarney Fern and curator note on label.]

What about the ID?
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