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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Lepidium campestre (1331) Reply with quote

This post was made automatically in response to a request for comment on the documentation form. There is more general info about such requests here.

Specimen #312742

Taxon:Brassicaceae: Lepidium campestre (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Field Pepperwort")
Filed in taxon folder:Brassicaceae: Lepidium campestre (L.) W.T. Aiton ("Field Pepperwort")
Collected by:Joseph Woods
Collection date:6/6/1845
Locality:Great Britain, VC14 East Sussex, Lewes, TQ30
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Lepidium campestre herbarium specimen from Lewes, VC14 East Sussex in 1845 by Joseph Woods.
collector's number:20581
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:Lewis 4566 is taken to mean the place and date. The signature below is said to be Jos Woods (1776-1864), who collected in Lewes. From another specimen the date (4566) is interpreted as year/month/day.

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by portwild on 2nd January 2011.

Checked by oldnick

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03/01/2011portwildDeleted note: Hume's label seems to refer to data on the back. Is this the piece shown underneath?
Does Lewis 4566 refer to the place?
03/01/2011portwildAdded notes
03/01/2011portwildDeleted collector: (Donor Unknown)
03/01/2011portwildAdded collection date: 4/5/1866
03/01/2011portwildDeleted note: Lewis 4566 is taken to mean the place and date.
03/01/2011portwildAdded notes
03/01/2011portwildDeleted locality:
03/01/2011portwildAdded locality: GB VC14 Lewes
03/01/2011portwildDeleted note: Lewis 4566 is taken to mean the place and date. The signature below is said to be Jos Woods (1776-1864), who collected in Lewes, but the assumed date is two years after his death.
03/01/2011portwildAdded note: Lewis 4566 is taken to mean the place and date. The signature below is said to be Jos Woods (1776-1864), who collected in Lewes. From another specimen the date (4566) is interpreted as year/month/day.
03/01/2011portwildAdded collector: Joseph Woods
03/01/2011portwildDeleted collection date: 4/5/1866
03/01/2011portwildAdded collection date: 6/6/1845
19/01/2011mossysalDeleted provenance: exherb (The South London Botanical Institute)
16/04/2013<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted collector: Joseph Woods
16/04/2013<system> (minor automatic edit)Added collector: Joseph Woods
16/04/2013oldnickAdded attribute collector's number: 20581

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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Tom Humphrey
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'label on the back' is the one pasted below. Quite a lot of SLBI had labels attached to the back which, if noticed are photographed. For small labels like this one, it seemed preferable to edit the images together rather than uploading the photos separately.

I'm not yet absolutely how to interpret some of Townsend's strange labelling but I think this is 'Lewis' as place and the date 4th May 1866.

Please avoid using 'Donor Unknown' as collector, just leave the field blank. 'Donor Unknown' has been used to mark some Birmingham sheets which were explicitly labelled as such. The BIRM 'donor unknown's all appear to be from a common source, so it's useful to have them marked - hopefully it will eventually be possible to trace the origin.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pencilled name on Townsend's label is Jos Woods. There are other coll Woods ex herb Townsend specimens from Lewes (spelled "Lewis"), Sussex. See, e.g., http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/312223/ (its label has "CS" in top R/H corner).

See entry for Joseph Woods (1776-1864) in Britten & Boulger.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Britten & Boulger wrote:
Woods, Joseph (1776-1864): b. Stoke Newington, 24 Aug. 1776; d. Lewes, 9 Jan. 1864. Architect, F.L.S. 1801. To Lewes, 1833. ' Synopsis of Rosa,' Linn. Trans, xii. (1818). ' Tourists' Flora,' 1850. Contrib. E. Bot. 1301, 2823, 2886. Herb, at S. Lond. Bot. Institute; Roses also at Linn. Soc.: Brit. pl. at Royal Instit. Swansea. Hook. & Winch Con-. Pritz. 351. Jacks. 622. Bot. Guide, xiv. Proc. Linn. Soc. 1863-4, xxxii. Linn. Trans, vii. 201. Journ. Bot. 1864, 62, 96. R.S.C. vi. 436. Portr. by Cotman, 1822, at Linn. Soc. D.N.B. lxii. 409. Fl. Bucks, xcix. Woodsia Br.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joseph Woods died two years before the supposed collection date.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the example given by wonastow the date (interpreted as 25th June 1857) is shown as 57625. Therefore 4566 is 6th June 1845, which is within J Woods lifetime.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: An explanation of the dates used by Joseph Woods Reply with quote

In A.J. Wilmott's 1949 notes on the SLBI Herbarium he writes,

"Joseph Woods used a system similar to that used by Robert Brown.

He indicated the date by putting first the last two numbers of the year, then the number or numbers of the month, and then the day of the month.

Thus 266 means June 1826 and
4366 means 6th June 1843. "


Edited by Tom to tag this post as Joseph Woods (1776-1864)
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