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keith barnett



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Oxytropis halleri (200705111133_4925) Reply with quote

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Specimen #265970

Taxon:Fabaceae: Oxytropis halleri Bunge ex W.D.J. Koch ("Purple Oxytropis")
Filed in taxon folder:Fabaceae: Oxytropis halleri Bunge ex W.D.J. Koch ("Purple Oxytropis")
Collection date:6/1835
Locality:Great Britain, VC85 Fifeshire, North Queensferry, NT18, 'Queensferry' [this sp grew only on the North side?]
ex herb:Rev William Hunt Painter
Mr Henry (Harry) Searle
Institution:Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:Oxytropis halleri herbarium specimen from North Queensferry, VC85 Fifeshire in 1835.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:[A well-known site for this species, which was however exterminated here by construction of the Forth Bridge] [?uralensis in pencil]

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by hallucigenia following initial work by qgroom on 18th October 2008.

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dateuserchange
17/04/2009keith barnettDeleted locality:
17/04/2009keith barnettAdded locality: [illegible]
17/04/2009keith barnettDeleted provenance: exherb Mr Henry (Harry) Searle
17/04/2009keith barnettAdded collector: Mr H Searle
17/04/2009keith barnettAdded attribute flowerField: flowering
24/07/2009tom humphreyDeleted locality: [illegible]
24/07/2009tom humphreyAdded locality: GB VC85 [North] Queensferry, Queensferry [illegible]
24/07/2009tom humphreyDeleted collector: Mr H Searle
24/07/2009tom humphreyAdded provenance: exherb Mr Henry (Harry) Searle
24/07/2009tom humphreyDeleted locality: GB VC85 [North] Queensferry, Queensferry [illegible]
24/07/2009tom humphreyAdded locality: GB VC85 [North] Queensferry, Queensferry [uncertain]
27/07/2009keith barnettAdded collector: Mr Henry (Harry) Searle
23/08/2009keith barnettDeleted collector: Mr Henry (Harry) Searle
07/12/2011oldnickAdded note: [A well-known site for this species, which was however exterminated here by construction of the Forth Bridge] [?uralensis in pencil]
07/12/2011oldnickDeleted locality: GB VC85 [North] Queensferry, Queensferry [uncertain]
07/12/2011oldnickAdded locality: GB VC85 North Queensferry, 'Queensferry' [this sp grew only on the North side?]

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Location Reply with quote

Queensferry ? a possibility
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hallucigenia



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Oxtropis halleri Reply with quote

I agree it could be Queensferry but his time-line only shows VC 15 and 58. He did not appear to work anywhere else.
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There would appear to be a number of 'profiles' in the database (and associated sheets) for Henry / Harry Searle / H Searle - probably one in the same person. Unfortunately, Desmond's Dictionary of British and Irish Botanists and Horticultalists only records his dates (as here 1844-1935), and offers no further information. However, a bit of searching suggests a Harry Searle, who was born in March (Cambridgeshire) about that date who went on to become a cabinet maker and medical botanist, who lived [towards the end of the century] in the Oldham area (a number of the specimens were collected in the Lancashire area at that time). This Harry Searle is to be found some years later in Middleton, Lancs, where the 'last' Searle H@H specimen is dated as 1902.
Meanwhile, see
http://herbariaunited.org/numberedsheets/2402.jpg
and
http://herbariaunited.org/sheets/ABS/200705141755_8503.jpg
and
http://herbariaunited.org/specimensearch.php?taxon=&taxonid=&collector=Mr%20Henry%20(Harry)%20Searle&colid=15128&role=prov&from=&to=&search=search&Country=gbie&VC=all&place=&placeid=&Inst=all&start=40&#searchlist
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Tom Humphrey
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've merged the various H Searle name variants into a [url=]single entry[/url] (hopefully this is correct - they can be unmerged if found to represent distinct people).

I suspect that many of Searle sheets that are ex herb Painter were not collected by Searle, but instead were part of his collection that was later acquired by Painter.
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