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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Feedback request: Rubus proiectus (16981) Reply with quote

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Specimen #335145

Taxon:Rosaceae: Rubus proiectus A. Beek
Filed in taxon folder:Rosaceae: Rubus proiectus A. Beek
Collected by:Mr Frederick Townsend
Collection date:8/1869
Locality:Great Britain, VC21 Middlesex, Sudbury, TQ18, 'Horsington Wood near Harrow, Sudbury station'
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Rubus proiectus herbarium specimen from Sudbury, VC21 Middlesex in 1869 by Mr Frederick Townsend.

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Documented by johned following initial work by oldnick on 19th April 2012.

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oldnick wrote
'Horsington Wood' seems likely to be Horsenden Wood TQ161846. As D E Allen notes, this looks to be Townsend's handwriting. I couldn't decipher "certain Ho... War...". I took E G Gilbert's note to be a determination - though couldn't decipher "?Lessuriants"...


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David Price



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Luxuriant"
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horsington Wood, as written is referenced throughout the The Flora of Harrow by J. Cosmo Melvill
http://archive.org/stream/floraharrow00melvgoog#page/n120/mode/1up/search/horsington - see below



However, J of Bot Vol 25 1887- "notes on Middlesex Plants" says
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting, as I have now found other specimens of this taxon, from Horsendon Wood, not far from Sudbury station as per label; and on modern map it is extant - maybe a neighbouring secondary wood has inherited the name? or 2 similarly-named woods?
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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who knows then ......?
it reads as Horsington but perhaps Townsend ? mis-heard

spelling was very variable at this time - for example

from http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/334282/ which has been interpreted as Horsenden.
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