Feedback request: Erophila verna (198)

[Tom Humphrey]

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Specimen #312130

Taxon:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna (L.) DC. ("Common Whitlowgrass")
Other name:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna var. stenocarpa
Filed in taxon folder:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna (L.) DC. ("Common Whitlowgrass")
Collected by:	Mr William Hadden Beeby
Collection date:	25/8/1881
Locality:	Great Britain, VC17 Surrey, Reigate Heath, TQ25, Field in Reigate Heath
ex herb:	Mr William Hadden Beeby
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:
Filing note:	Erophila verna var stenocarpa

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by CLL on 23^rd December 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Deleted determination (det): Erophila verna
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Deleted determination (det): Erophila verna var stenocarpa
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Added determination (orig): Erophila verna
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Added determination (orig): Erophila verna var stenocarpa

Specimen #312131

Taxon:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna (L.) DC. ("Common Whitlowgrass")
Other name:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna var. stenocarpa
Filed in taxon folder:	Brassicaceae: Erophila verna (L.) DC. ("Common Whitlowgrass")
Collection date:	17/6/1879
Locality:	Great Britain, VC17 Surrey, Redhill, TQ24, wall near
ex herb:	Mr William Hadden Beeby
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	scribbled field note, probably collected by WHBeeby.
Filing note:	Erophila verna var stenocarpa

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by CLL on 23^rd December 2010.

Edit history

date	user	change
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Deleted determination (det): Erophila verna
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Deleted determination (det): Erophila verna var stenocarpa
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Added determination (orig): Erophila verna
23/12/2010	tom humphrey	Added determination (orig): Erophila verna var stenocarpa
20/06/2013	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC17, label reads Wall near Rev Hill, Sy possibly ??Redhill
20/06/2013	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC17 Redhill, wall near

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tom humphrey wrote

Any ideas about the locality? Beeby was at Maplehurst, W. Sussex on 17/6/1879, so probably somewhere local to there if he was the collector. (maybe collector Rev. Hill ??)

[Chris Liffen]

I was in two minds about the taxon, but given my atrophied skills in terms of identification .......

Chris

[Tom Humphrey]

The messages about determination editing are misleading at the moment - I didn't make any changes to the determination - I just wanted to seek suggestions on the strange locality.

I'll try to sort out the spurious determination change messages tomorrow.

[Chris Liffen]

I will leave such arcane determinations to the leaders on the 'score board'
I took the Sy (?) to denote Surrey ....
Yours
Chris

[dawn nelson]

Are you sure it was Maplehurst East Sussex as there is a Maplehurst Wood not far from Bexhill East Sussex.
Bex hill is a possible but as Chris says I took Sy to be Surrey,
sorry not too helpful
Dawn

[dawn nelson]

Redhill also looks very likely

[oldnick]

I definitely read it as Red Hill Surrey; and Beeby always wrote Redhill that way. All his Sussex specimens that day lie in a quite possible route via Redhill, though it must have been a prodigious journey