Feedback request: Mentha arvensis x aquatica x spicata = M. x smithiana (HU2007-01230177)

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Specimen #233862

Taxon:	Lamiaceae: Mentha arvensis x aquatica x spicata = M. x smithiana R.A. Graham ("Tall Mint") named by Rex Alan Henry Graham 5/12/1950
Filed in taxon folder:	Lamiaceae: Mentha arvensis x aquatica x spicata = M. x smithiana R.A. Graham ("Tall Mint")
Collected by:	John Fraser Dr John (Joannis) Fraser
Collection date:	7/1882
Locality:	Upper Ouby, Banks of Severn [? = Upper Arley near Kidderminster SO7679 see: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234660/ ]
ex herb:	Rev John Durbin Gray
Institution:	Cambridge University (CGE)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	buds/immature flowers

Documented by qgroom on 15^th May 2007.

Edit history

date	user	change
24/03/2008	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Deleted provenance: exherb Rev. John Durbin Gray
24/03/2008	tom humphrey	Deleted collector: D J Fraser
24/03/2008	tom humphrey	Added collector: John Fraser
24/03/2008	<system> (minor automatic edit)	Added provenance: exherb Rev John Durbin Gray
17/10/2012	oldnick	Deleted locality: Upper Ouby, Banks of Severn
17/10/2012	oldnick	Added locality: Upper Ouby, Banks of Severn [? = Upper Arley near Kidderminster SO7679 ]
11/11/2012	oldnick	Deleted locality: Upper Ouby, Banks of Severn [? = Upper Arley near Kidderminster SO7679 ]
11/11/2012	oldnick	Added locality: Upper Ouby, Banks of Severn [? = Upper Arley near Kidderminster SO7679 see: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234660/ ]
11/11/2012	oldnick	Added collector: Dr John (Joannis) Fraser

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tom humphrey wrote

Collector name changed to Dr. John Fraser (1820-1909) based on advise of Richard Middleton, by comparison with specimens at HLU.

oldnick wrote

Site: this may be a poorly transcribed label, and I suspect Upper Arley near Kidderminster SO7679, Fraser has a sheet from Fenny Rough not so far away. Collector: John Fraser's entry on the h@h pick-list corresponds to: 'Dr John Fraser 1820 -1909 of Glasgow and Wolverhampton; a good account of his life and career is at http://www.herb.hull.ac.uk/herbarium/fraser.htm ' (David Price's note on http://herbariaunited.org/core/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8801 ) and his various Midlands sheets should probably be re-edited

[oldnick]

For apparent confirmation that this John Fraser is the self-styled Joannis Fraser, and of the site as Upper Arley, see: http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234660/ ps I suggest citing as Joannis will need to continue, for the reason he himself probably had - ie to distinguish from the 'other' Frasers[/b]