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oldnick
Joined: 09 Oct 2009 Posts: 5472
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: Feedback request: Cephalanthera damasonium (27977) |
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This post was made automatically in response to a request for comment on the documentation form. There is more general info about such requests here.
Documented by xmhcman following initial work by oldnick on 8th December 2012. Edit historyN.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names. Log-in to edit this sheet.
User comments about this sheet - oldnick wrote
- Poor legibility - W Barton? Near Boston? month? Hope nursery Leeming Lane? (cultivated?)
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Roger Horton
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 1545 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:21 am Post subject: |
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There seems to have been a Hope nursery, run by William May, seedsman, in Leeming Lane [now A6065 alongside A1(M)] at Burneston (SE3185), as advertised in the Gardener's Magazine. |
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David Price
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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This looks like an Epipactis. The locality is too far north for the native distribution of Cephalanthera damasonium.
The date is not "7 June" but "7 Mo" i.e. July in Quaker orthography.
I think the handwriting is that of William Mudd. |
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Roger Horton
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Posts: 1545 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have edited the date. Here's an enhanced image of the label:
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David Price
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hope Nursery is very near Mudd's birthplace at Thornton Watlass where he lived until he was 20 in 1850 when he moved to Darlington. |
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oldnick
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it must be Burneston, and I completely agree with the view it's one of W Mudd's labels - am editing in. |
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David Price
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Cephalanthera damasonium does not grow wild in Yorkshire.
There is no unequivocal statement of the name of the collector. W B (Barton or Boston?) merely sent the spmn to Mudd. Was it a gardener to gardener transaction (or botanist to botanist)?
If it is Cephalanthera was it in cultivation? Was Hope Nursery merely the address of WB?
If it is an Epipactis it could have been native at Burneston.
But to which taxon was Mudd referring? Who is the authority?
This is a problematic specimen. |
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oldnick
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Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Oh dear yes I see - what I took to be an abbreviated 'Near Burneston' is probably a W Burton or Barton after all. (Leeming Lane also runs for some miles and has currently at least, numerous nurseries along it). |
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