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shaw30



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Hieracium prenanthoides (27709) Reply with quote

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Specimen #351146

Taxon:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Collected by:Joseph Woods
Collection date:17/8/1834
Locality:France, Mont Cenis, Mont Cenis [Rhone-Alpes, France]
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Hieracium prenanthoides herbarium specimen from Mont Cenis in 1834 by Joseph Woods.

Documented by shaw30 on 23rd December 2012.

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23/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: Mont Cenis?
23/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: GB VC14 Lewes, near Lewes
25/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: GB VC14 Lewes, near Lewes
25/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: , Mt Cenis
25/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: , Mt Cenis
25/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: FR Mont Cenis
23/09/2015oldnickDeleted locality: FR Mont Cenis
23/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: FR Mont Cenis, Mont Cenis [Rhone-Alpes, France]

Specimen #351147

Taxon:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Collection date:27/8/1890
Locality:Great Britain, VC92 South Aberdeenshire, Braemar, NO18
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by shaw30 on 23rd December 2012.

Checked by oldnick

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23/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: GB VC92 Braemar

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shaw30 wrote
did Woods ever get spp. from abroad?


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Tom Humphrey
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaw30 wrote:
did Woods ever get spp. from abroad?


Not that I'm aware of.

I think the label reads 'Nr. Lewes'. There are many Woods sheets from Lewes, Sussex, that have less ambiguous labels than this one.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Feedback request: Hieracium prenanthoides (27709) Reply with quote

shaw30 wrote:
This post was made automatically in response to a request for comment on the documentation form. There is more general info about such requests here.

Specimen #351146

Taxon:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Collected by:Joseph Woods
Collection date:17/8/1834
Locality:France, Mont Cenis, Mont Cenis [Rhone-Alpes, France]
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Hieracium prenanthoides herbarium specimen from Mont Cenis in 1834 by Joseph Woods.

Documented by shaw30 on 23rd December 2012.

Checked by oldnick

Edit history

dateuserchange
23/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: Mont Cenis?
23/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: GB VC14 Lewes, near Lewes
25/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: GB VC14 Lewes, near Lewes
25/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: , Mt Cenis
25/12/2012tom humphreyDeleted locality: , Mt Cenis
25/12/2012tom humphreyAdded locality: FR Mont Cenis
23/09/2015oldnickDeleted locality: FR Mont Cenis
23/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: FR Mont Cenis, Mont Cenis [Rhone-Alpes, France]

Specimen #351147

Taxon:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Filed in taxon folder:Asteraceae: Hieracium prenanthoides Vill.
Collection date:27/8/1890
Locality:Great Britain, VC92 South Aberdeenshire, Braemar, NO18
ex herb:Mr Frederick Townsend
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by shaw30 on 23rd December 2012.

Checked by oldnick

Edit history

dateuserchange
23/09/2015oldnickDeleted locality:
23/09/2015oldnickAdded locality: GB VC92 Braemar

N.B. reporting of the edit history is currently fairly unclear and misleading. Most edits made to specimens appear as a pair of 'add' and 'delete' entries, which may not be together in the list. There are also often 'minor' edits, which are made automatically (rather than due to user activity), for example to merge synonym names.

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shaw30 wrote
did Woods ever get spp. from abroad?


H. prenanthoides is a plant of the British uplands and does not occur in lowland England; it is also a plant of the Swiss and French Alps. I don't think the writing is Nr. Lewes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've changed my mind about the place name and put it back to Mont Cenis (although so far there aren't other foreign Woods specimens - unless some of the other Lewes are misread) - perhaps he did the grand tour.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further to my previous reply I've realized that I wasn't using the search pages correctly (a default 'Great Britain' filter was set).

There are Woods specimens from France and Italy, including others from Mont Cenis.

I've updated the specimen again.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following passage is an extract from the Wikipedia account of Joseph Woods -

".... immediately after the end of the Napoleonic Wars, he was able to travel throughout the Continent and visited France, Switzerland, and Italy, studying their architecture and botany."
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or from Meiosis
"In connection with his work he travelled quite extensively in continental Europe. By quite early on he had become a keen amateur botanist, and he gradually built on this to contribute scientific papers to journals and learned societies on plant systematics."
and
"On retirement from architecture he moved to live in Lewes in East Sussex, and devoted much of his time to botanical studies. ‘The Tourists Flora. A Descriptive Catalogue of the Flowering Plants and Ferns of the British Islands, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy and the Italian Islands’ (1850), was one product of this time. This can be accessed at archive.org"
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