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hallucigenia



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Silene vulgaris subsp. vulgaris (1715) Reply with quote

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Specimen #310760

Taxon:Caryophyllaceae: Silene vulgaris subsp. vulgaris
Filed in taxon folder:Caryophyllaceae: Silene vulgaris subsp. vulgaris
Collected by:Mr Archibald Sim Montgomrey
Collection date:6/1916
Locality:Great Britain, VC33 East Gloucestershire, Noverton, SO92, Noverton Hill
Institution:Gloucester City Museum (GLR)
Accession number:1715
Image:Silene vulgaris subsp. vulgaris herbarium specimen from Noverton, VC33 East Gloucestershire in 1916 by Mr Archibald Sim Montgomrey.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

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Documented by hallucigenia on 16th November 2010.

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dateuserchange
21/11/2010hallucigeniaDeleted collector: Mr A S Montgomery
21/11/2010hallucigeniaAdded collector: Archibald Sim Montgomrey
17/08/2016chrisuDeleted locality: GB VC33 Cheltenham, Norton Hill near'
17/08/2016chrisuAdded locality: GB VC33 Noverton, Noverton Hill

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hallucigenia wrote
Another of Mr A S Montgomery's I think.


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Chris Liffen



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or Montgomrey Smile
see http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5516
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hallucigenia



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not saying you are wrong indeed the only hint of collector is "Mont" written in pencil, presumably by the archiver on most if not all sheets.
However one sheet at least is signed http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/254980/, which may be the same.
But having looked at those specimens of Montgomrey the style/hand is the same, which poses a problem are there two collectors with the same initials one A.S.Montgomery one A.S. Montgomrey, or more likely one collector and a 'typo' / 'error' in the past has caused twins! Whichever it is the sheets need collating under the correct name, once this is decided.
There is no database entry for 'ery' but one for 'rey' the more likely I feel, if we agree I will collate all the sheets done so far under one name.
Let me know on this.
Chris
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

see http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5507&highlight=montgomrey
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