Feedback request: Erodium moschatum (2449)

[hallucigenia]

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Specimen #311167

Taxon:	Geraniaceae: Erodium moschatum (L.) L'H�r. ("Musk Stork's-bill")
Filed in taxon folder:	Geraniaceae: Erodium moschatum (L.) L'H�r. ("Musk Stork's-bill")
Collected by:	A Malleson
Collection date:	6/1911
Locality:	Great Britain, Gloucestershire, Kemble, ST999788, Kemble [a village, of which] Poole Keynes [is a parish of, near Cirencester], (altitude 102m)
Institution:	Gloucester City Museum (GLR)
Accession number:	2449
Image:
fruits/flowers:	buds/immature flowers

Documented by hallucigenia on 26^th November 2010.

Specimen #311168

Taxon:	Geraniaceae: Erodium moschatum (L.) L'H�r. ("Musk Stork's-bill")
Filed in taxon folder:	Geraniaceae: Erodium moschatum (L.) L'H�r. ("Musk Stork's-bill")
Locality:
Institution:	Gloucester City Museum (GLR)

Documented by hallucigenia on 26^th November 2010.

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hallucigenia wrote

Collector, google Earth, Google search all insist VC33,VC34

[mossysal]

See Wonastow's post on http://herbariaunited.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5676&highlight=kemble which answers the problem

[hallucigenia]

Thanks even more confused now
C

[David Price]

Label says Poole Keynes which is ST999953 (forget all about Kemble). If you input that GR into the OS grid reference to vice-county conversion programme (follow the link from 'Maps & gazeteers') you get http://herbariaunited.org/gridrefVC/?gridref=ST999953&lat=&long=&lrsheet=&lreast=&lrnorth=&do=search&search=look-up+county+or+grid-reference#sf
which says locality is in vc 7; i.e. within the borders of Wiltshire as it was at the date when H C Watson created his system of vice-Counties.

Administrative boundaries change, but the Watsonian boundaries are writ like "the laws of the Medes and Persians which altereth not.”- Daniel vi. 8.

So where the label says "vc 34" it is wrong. However, the editors of 'Flora of Gloucestershire' wished (for purposes of practical convenience only) to include Poole Keynes in the area covered by their book.

Note that the specimen is ex herb Butt.