Feedback request: Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia (HU2007-03080034)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #232326

Taxon:	Lamiaceae: Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var. webberi named by J Fraser M longifolia var nemorosa Willd otherwise x M miliaca Jacq var nemorosa Willd
Other name:	Lamiaceae: Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var. webberi confirmed by Rex Alan Henry Graham 12/10/1948 x M miliaca Jacq var Webberi Fraser
Filed in taxon folder:	Lamiaceae: Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var. webberi
Locality:	Great Britain, Perthshire, 'Newton Loan' [= lane]
ex herb:	Druce Herbarium, Oxford
Institution:	Oxford University (OXF)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	[descriptive note by Fraser. no date or collector name] 'Sheet 2'?

Documented by fluid on 30^th March 2007.

Edit history

date	user	change
12/01/2011	oldnick	Deleted determination (orig): Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var webberi on 12/10/1948
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determination (orig): Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var webberi
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determination (conf): Mentha suaveolens x longifolia = M. x rotundifolia var webberi on 12/10/1948
12/01/2011	oldnick	Deleted blank locality
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC87,VC88,VC89, 'Newton Leam' [??]
12/01/2011	oldnick	Deleted determiner: Rex Alan Henry Graham
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determiner: J Fraser
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determiner: Rex Alan Henry Graham
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determiner's note: this name appears to be correct
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added determiner's note: Acer campestre v.hebecarpum (fruit pubescent - the typical form)
12/01/2011	oldnick	Added notes
02/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted note: descriptive note by Fraser. 'Sheet 2'?
02/12/2014	oldnick	Added note: [descriptive note by Fraser. no date or collector name] 'Sheet 2'?
02/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality: GB VC87,VC88,VC89, 'Newton Leam' [??]
02/12/2014	oldnick	Added locality: GB VC87,VC88,VC89, 'Newton Loan' [= lane]
02/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted determiner's note: M longifolia var nemorosa Willd otherwise x M miliaca Jacq var nemorosa Willd
02/12/2014	oldnick	Deleted determiner's note: x M miliaca Jacq var Webberi Fraser
02/12/2014	oldnick	Added determiner's note: x M miliaca Jacq var Webberi Fraser
02/12/2014	oldnick	Added determiner's note: M longifolia var nemorosa Willd otherwise x M miliaca Jacq var nemorosa Willd

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

I could not locate 'Newton Leam' [??] nor recognise collector's handwriting

[David Price]

"Newton Loan, Perth".

I do not think 'Loan' is a significant part of the place name as it is merely the scotch word for a lane or cattle-track (cf. welsh 'lon').

[oldnick]

I've got no further with this vaguely labelled sheet, except I see there's a Newton Lane in Blairgowrie; but does http://herbariaunited.org/sheets/OXF/2007-03080045.jpg offer any similarity in its handwriting?

[David Price]

This spmn is numbered "(2)" (so h/w prob. is curatorial).

Is it, I wonder, related to http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/234833/ ?

[oldnick]

Great minds think alike? Our references are to the same sheet

[David Price]

.... and both were IDed by Rex Graham on the same day.

[David Price]

see also http://archive.bsbi.org.uk/Wats4p119.pdf

[Roger Horton]

Could this be the Newton Loan in Dunblane Perthshire, OS NN7801? It runs along the south side of the grounds of what is now the Dunblane Hotel Hydro, but was originally a house called Newton.

Botanical Soc. & Exchange Club Report for 1927 [pdf] (page 412) under New County and Other Records reports a specimen from Miss Young (only other sheet is 233694):