Feedback request: Rosa stylosa (200705110956_4181)

[oldnick]

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Specimen #251681

Taxon:	Rosaceae: Rosa stylosa Desv. ("Short-styled Field-rose")
Filed in taxon folder:	Rosaceae: Rosa stylosa Desv. ("Short-styled Field-rose")
Collected by:	Mr James Eustace Bagnall
Locality:	Great Britain, VC38 Warwickshire, Coleshill, SP18
ex herb:	Rev William Hunt Painter
Institution:	Aberystwyth University Herbarium (ABS)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers
notes:	says ex Rev Bagnall - only a Mr Bagnall on pop up No date

Inferred details are marked.

Documented by CLL on 23^rd February 2008.

Edit history

date	user	change
26/01/2011	oldnick	Added collector: Mr Bagnall
06/02/2011	CLL	Deleted collector: Mr Bagnall
06/02/2011	CLL	Added collector: Mr James Eustace Bagnall
06/02/2011	tom humphrey	Deleted locality: GB AMBIGUOUS Coleshill
06/02/2011	tom humphrey	Added locality: GB VC38 Coleshill

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User comments about this sheet

oldnick wrote

On comparing with http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/263570/ I see this label appears to read J W Bagnall (not Rev or Mr) - but what is the connection with J E Bagnall? Warks most likely; Bagnall's usual area

[Tom Humphrey]

I think it's just the strange way Painter wrote 'Mr'

e.g. http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/230052/?image as an example of 'Mr W I Hannan'

[mossysal]

There are several sheets of Bagnall's (J E ) from Coleshill Warwicks ex herb Painter similarly named.

[Chris Liffen]

Well, ultimately the arbiter is Tom ......

[David Price]

Reference to Bagnall's 'Flora of Warwickshire' locates Coleshill close to the river Blythe at SP2089.

[Tom Humphrey]

Not sure I'm too keen on being the 'ultimate arbiter' Painter's handwriting has plenty of potential to spread confusion by itself without my ultimate arbitration thrown in to the mix!

hopefully we can reach a consensus mostly.