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johned



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Epipactis helleborine (13783) Reply with quote

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Specimen #331919

Taxon:Orchidaceae: Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz ("Broad-leaved Helleborine")
Other name:Epipactis ovalis Bab.
Filed in taxon folder:Orchidaceae: Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz ("Broad-leaved Helleborine")
Collected by:H Fisher
Collection date:7/1863
Locality:Great Britain, VC49 Caernarvonshire, Great Orme's Head, SH78
ex herb:Dulwich College
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:Epipactis helleborine herbarium specimen from Great Orme's Head, VC49 Caernarvonshire in 1863 by H Fisher.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

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Documented by apbudden on 29th December 2011.

Specimen #331920

Taxon:Orchidaceae: Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz ("Broad-leaved Helleborine")
Other name:Orchideae: Epipactis latifolia All.
Filed in taxon folder:Orchidaceae: Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz ("Broad-leaved Helleborine")
Collected by:C H T
Collection date:8/1894
Locality:Great Britain, VC13 West Sussex, West Harting, SU71, Wayside
ex herb:Dulwich College
Institution:South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:According to Darwin E. latifolia is fertilized exclusively by wasps, so that if wasps were to become extinct in any district, so would E. latifolia.

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Documented by apbudden on 29th December 2011.

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29/12/2011dawn nelsonDeleted locality: GB VC13 West Harting
29/12/2011dawn nelsonAdded locality: GB VC13 West Harting, Wayside
29/12/2011dawn nelsonAdded collector: C H T

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johned wrote
C H T is possibly related to the collector J H T (also represented in the Dulwich College collection), but a search of the Dulwich alumni register has failed to find a pair matching these initials.


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oldnick



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I think people have been reading as JHP, not on records either. Maybe something different such as Junior House Project?????
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:37 am    Post subject: Dulwich collectors JHP/JHT Reply with quote

Yes, the ones beginning with J have been recorded consistently as JHP though I have yet to find a capital T for comparison (signatures being often somewhat different from normal writing). The Dulwich register of alumni doesn't appear to contain names of staff unless they were also old boys, and I suspect from the annotations that the author was a Classicist as well as a botanist.

We could try the archivist at Dulwich College, but given that they got rid of their herbarium they may not be too keen to research this topic. I have scoured Desmond for a JHP, and although there is a John Herbert Parkyn (b. 1864) he was an art teacher in Hull. And even if one accepts Old Nick's imaginative postulation Junior House Project, then what does CHP stand for?
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