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keith barnett



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Carex ovalis (140709_513) Reply with quote

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Specimen #284880

Taxon:Cyperaceae: Carex ovalis Gooden. ("Oval Sedge")
Filed in taxon folder:Cyperaceae: Carex ovalis Gooden. ("Oval Sedge")
Collected by:J Jacob
Collection date:5/6/1836
Locality:Pl... bridge [?]
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
W S H
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-23945
Image:Carex ovalis herbarium specimen collected in 1836 by J Jacob.
fruits/flowers:mature flowers
notes:sheet covering part of specimens. Written details not clear. [see message board]

Documented by rmwalls on 22nd December 2009.

Checked by wonastow

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dateuserchange
27/08/2010oldnickAdded collector: J Jacob
27/08/2010oldnickAdded provenance: exherb W S H (W S H)
02/12/2012oldnickDeleted note: sheet covering part of specimens. Written details not clear
02/12/2012oldnickAdded note: sheet covering part of specimens. Written details not clear. [see message board]
02/12/2012oldnickDeleted locality: [illegible]
02/12/2012oldnickAdded locality: , Pl... bridge [?] [illegible]
01/12/2014<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted provenance: exherb Prince of Mantua and Montferrat
01/12/2014<system> (minor automatic edit)Added provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)

Specimen #284926

Taxon:Cyperaceae: Carex ovalis Gooden. ("Oval Sedge")
Filed in taxon folder:Cyperaceae: Carex ovalis Gooden. ("Oval Sedge")
Collected by:Mrs Emma Radcliffe
Collection date:1851
Locality:Great Britain, VC10 Isle of Wight, Cockleton Bog, SZ4894
ex herb:Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
Institution:Bolton Museum (BON)
Accession number:30-07-23945
fruits/flowers:mature flowers

Documented by oldnick following initial work by keith barnett on 23rd December 2009.

Checked by wonastow

Edit history

dateuserchange
27/08/2010oldnickDeleted note: ? Bog
27/08/2010oldnickDeleted locality:
27/08/2010oldnickAdded locality: , Cockleton Bog
27/08/2010oldnickAdded collector: C N (C N)
21/10/2012oldnickDeleted locality: , Cockleton Bog
21/10/2012oldnickAdded locality: GB VC10 Cockleton Bog SZ4894 (place)
01/12/2014wonastowDeleted collector: C N (C N)
01/12/2014<system> (minor automatic edit)Deleted provenance: exherb Prince of Mantua and Montferrat
01/12/2014<system> (minor automatic edit)Added provenance: exherb Mantua And Montferrat (Prince Of Mantua And Montserrat)
01/12/2014wonastowAdded collector: Miss Georgiana Elisabeth Kilderbee
01/12/2014wonastowDeleted collector: Miss Georgiana Elisabeth Kilderbee
01/12/2014wonastowAdded collector: Mrs Emma Radcliffe

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keith barnett wrote
on review, possibly Cockermouth Bog?


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David Price



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks more like Cockleton. The only Cockleton I can find is at Northwood near Cowes, IoW.
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually, it is impossible to read this person's script (bottom left), but this is clearly legible, dated, and not anonymous. However I have not yet located Cockleton Bog, or identified C N.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have not managed to identify W S H / W G H (right-hand label)
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Site, J Jacob specimen (r-h label): for all its illegibility, this resembles
'near Plus/Plns Lodge/hedges' but I haven't so far found a similar site among J Jacob's other sheets
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David Price



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

near Plym Bridge ? SX5258
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oldnick



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somehow a computer glitch(?) has missed the following message from this screen: keith barnett wrote, “on review, possibly Cockermouth Bog?”
geoff toone wrote, “Cockleton Bog IoW was at SZ4894, below Cockleton Farm and was discovered by Miss Georgiana Kilderbee. It has now disappeared. It is likely to have contained C. ovalis and there are records by G. Kilderbee of it from nearby localities in Flora Vectensis (1856).”
I've edited in.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Georgiana Elisabeth Kilderbee (1798-1868) has a biography on H@H and is one of the subjects of David Allen's article in http://archive.bsbi.org.uk/BSBINews102.pdf at page 27.

In view of Miss Kilderbee's Suffolk/Isle of Wight provenance I think the labels bearing that barely legible handwriting pertain to her specimens and may well be in her manuscript.
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David Price



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having now read David Allen's article more attentively I am inclined to think that this collector was in fact Mrs Emma Radcliffe; so having over-hastily entered Miss Kilderbee as collector of several spmns I will now hasten to undo the mischief.
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