Feedback request: Gentianella germanica (32012)

[dawn nelson]

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Specimen #353765

Taxon:	Gentianaceae: Gentianella germanica (Willd.) B�rner ("Chiltern Gentian")
Filed in taxon folder:	Gentianaceae: Gentianella germanica (Willd.) B�rner ("Chiltern Gentian")
Collected by:	Mr Cecil Prescott Hurst
Collection date:	25/8/1910
Locality:	Great Britain, VC22 Berkshire, Rivar (Riever) Wood, SU3161, Base of Riever Waood
ex herb:	Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
Image:
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Documented by dawn nelson on 12^th January 2013.

Edit history

date	user	change
12/01/2013	dawn nelson	Deleted locality: GB VC22 Kiever Wood, Base of '
12/01/2013	dawn nelson	Added locality: GB VC22 Riever Wood, Base of ' [now Rivar] Waood SU3161 (place)
24/01/2016	xmhcman	Deleted locality: GB VC22 Riever Wood, Base of ' [now Rivar] Waood SU3161 (place)
24/01/2016	xmhcman	Added locality: GB VC22 Rivar (Riever) Wood, Base of Riever Waood SU3161 (place)

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User comments about this sheet

dawn nelson wrote

Location anyone?

[Roger Horton]

This came up a few weeks ago! Riever (now Rivar) Wood SU3161.

The flora of Berkshire says: South of Hungerford there is a beautiful hanging wood, chiefly composed of Hazel with Pyrus Aria, on the chalk escarpment known as Riever Wood.

[dawn nelson]

Thank you have edited it but for some reason it doesn't like the Grid ref. - though I checked it.

[Tom Humphrey]

SU3161 is in South Wiltshire not Berkshire - is this definitely the correct grid-square for Riever Wood (though it matches present-day Riever Hill, so seems credible)

[Roger Horton]

You've made me think again! Looking at OS First Series 1:63360 sheet 12 1817 there is Riever Wood equidistant from Ham, Buttermere and Inkpen (they didn't do grid squares then). This corresponds to the positions of modern Rivar Copse and Little Rivar Copse on the scarp adjacent to and within the Berkshire boundary, the former centred on OS SU351621.

On the same old map the village of Rivar is shown as Riever. The modern village is below Rivar Hill and Rivar Firs, and all lie in South Wiltshire.

The three county point for Berkshire/South Wilts/North Hampshire lies only 1km SE of Rivar Copse!!

Sorry for causing confusion.

[dawn nelson]

still seems confusing to me so will leave it as is, for an interested future editor to sort out with all this info to go by - unless any of you wish to edit it.