Feedback request: Salsola kali (39774)

[Roger Horton]

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Specimen #365704

Taxon:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Filed in taxon folder:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Collected by:	Joseph Woods
Collection date:	25/9/1843
Locality:	Great Britain, VC3 South Devon, River Avon, SX6644, mouth
ex herb:	Mr Frederick Townsend Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
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collector's number:	23833
notes:	(1) & (2)

Documented by xmhcman on 15^th December 2013.

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31/12/2013	dawn nelson	Added provenance: exherb Mr Frederick Townsend

Specimen #365705

Taxon:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Filed in taxon folder:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Collected by:	Joseph Woods
Collection date:	25/8/1836
Locality:	Great Britain, VC13 West Sussex, Littlehampton, TQ00
ex herb:	Mr Frederick Townsend Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
collector's number:	23833
notes:	(3)

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Documented by xmhcman on 15^th December 2013.

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31/12/2013	dawn nelson	Added provenance: exherb Mr Frederick Townsend

Specimen #365706

Taxon:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Filed in taxon folder:	Chenopodiaceae: Salsola kali L.
Collected by:	Joseph Woods
Collection date:	16/9/1834
Locality:	France, Avignon, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur
ex herb:	Mr Frederick Townsend Mr Allan Octavian Hume
Institution:	South London Botanical Institute (SLBI)
collector's number:	23833
notes:	(4) - (6)

Documented by xmhcman on 15^th December 2013.

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15/12/2013	xmhcman	Added note: (4) - (6)
31/12/2013	dawn nelson	Added provenance: exherb Mr Frederick Townsend

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xmhcman wrote

The suggestion is that Woods retired to Lewes about 1833, and, in deed, his East Sussex collections start that year. The specimens here (4 - 6) dated 16/9/1834 are Wood's last for that year, and from France. In retirement he was beginning to enjoy more foreign travel collecting in France May-September. During the year, however, the database reports specimens from his old home of Stoke Newington, and Surrey, but interspersed with the French ones. The labels from English sites in a much more flowing hand, and without his characteristic date style. Any ideas please on this dichotomy?

[David Price]

".... Woods's last for that year .... ". You are assuming that ALL his gatherings are documented on H@H.

It is possible that some labels have been "reconstructed" (erroneously) at a later date (from notebooks etc.). Remounting specimens and aggregating on one sheet specimens from different gatherings can also give rise to errors.

Our task is often archaeological!

[Roger Horton]

There is a sheet, 358301, with two specimens, one with 'Stoke Newington' handwriting, the other with the typical 'Lewes', separated by 21 years!

[oldnick]

Re the latter, I can see that the handwriting of the 1831 specimen might be Townsend's, but he wasn't born until 1822 so probably not the collector.