Feedback request: Veronica scutellata (K001012564)

[peterwiggins]

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Specimen #370237

Taxon:	Scrophulariaceae: Veronica scutellata L. ("Marsh Speedwell")
Filed in taxon folder:	Scrophulariaceae: Veronica scutellata L. ("Marsh Speedwell")
Locality:	Columbia
ex herb:	Sir William Jackson Hooker
Institution:	Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:	K001012564
Image: © Kew
fruits/flowers:	mature flowers

Documented by oldnick following initial work by peterwiggins on 25^th February 2014.

Edit history

date	user	change
06/03/2014	oldnick	Deleted locality:
06/03/2014	oldnick	Added locality: Columbia
06/03/2014	oldnick	Added provenance: exherb Sir William Jackson Hooker

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User comments about this sheet

peterwiggins wrote

Help with place name

[Chris Liffen]

? Ham Common
zoom in below

OS Grid reference TQ184717

[Tom Humphrey]

Hi Chris,

the bottom left label - which is opaque to me. ('Ham Common' is specimen K001012565). Having to pay attention to the barcode number is a nuisance.

Tom

[peterwiggins]

Relieved that you guys can't make out the bottom left one either. I think that is my most minimalist entry so far!

[Chris Liffen]

Oh sorry

[Roger Horton]

Am I right in thinking that where Kew sheets have multiple bar codes each comes round as a separate entry rather than having to be treated as multiple specimens on the same sheet? It's a pity that Chris's useful map of Ham Common cannot be passed forward to whoever documents the other label!

By the way, the location looks like Columbia to me. A new country for the database, or a local name in the UK?

[Tom Humphrey]

Yes, each barcode is listed separately with a duplicate of the image.

In many ways that's a more technically correct way of doing things. Accessioning 'Sheets' is problematic in that distinguishing which specimen is referred to is harder - and remounting and splitting up a multi-specimen sheet would break the system.

The reason that I've generally used sheets as a unit is as a pragmatic short-cut - it's far quicker to photograph if you don't have to check in detail what is on a sheet.

I don't know what to make of 'Columbia' - I'd read that and doubted it, but, by email Chris had also identified the same - which he thought reasonable given how well-travelled Hooker was.

[Chris Liffen]

The 'Hookers' also received material from all over the world.

[Roger Horton]

Hooker and Columbia: two extracts from "Life and letters of Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker" volume II (1918):

'Description of a new species of Lysipoma, from the Andes of
Columbia. (Hook. Lond. Journ. Bot. 1847, vol. vi. pp. 286-
287, pl. 9a.)' [so JDH must have received material from Columbia];

'Charles Frederic Meissner ..... an extensive herbarium, sold at
his death to Columbia College, New York'. [JDH certainly knew
the work of this German botanist; was he ever in contact with
the college?]

[oldnick]

I also wondered does the 'B' refer to George Bentham, handwriting looks the same as on http://herbariaunited.org/specimen/370087/?image. I find no specimens of his in h@h currently, from N or S America