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oldnick



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Feedback request: Veronica scutellata (K001012567) Reply with quote

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Specimen #370554

Taxon:Scrophulariaceae: Veronica scutellata L. ("Marsh Speedwell")
Filed in taxon folder:Scrophulariaceae: Veronica scutellata L. ("Marsh Speedwell")
Collected by:Czetz
Locality:Romania, Cluj, 'Herb & Mus. Claudiopol Transilvania'
Institution:Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (K)
Accession number:K001012567
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Veronica scutellata herbarium specimen from Cluj by Czetz.
fruits/flowers:seeds/fruits
notes:Received 4/1874 [Claudiopolis = Cluj-Napoca/Klausenburg, Transylvania, Romania]

Documented by oldnick on 6th March 2014.

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07/03/2014oldnickAdded note: Received 4/1874 [Claudiopolis = Cluj-Napoca/Klausenburg, Transylvania, Romania]
07/03/2014oldnickDeleted locality: RO, 'Claudropol' [= Cluj, Transylvania, Romania??] [illegible]
07/03/2014oldnickAdded locality: RO Cluj, 'Herb & Mus. Claudiopol Transilvania'
07/03/2014oldnickAdded collector: Czetz
07/03/2014oldnickDeleted collection date: 4/1874

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oldnick wrote
I couldn't decipher any of the label - C Czetz? Claudropol? Tranforhania? I suggest Cluj, in Transylvania, apparently formerly known as Claudropol though I can't find any verification of that. The following reference (to Bulgaria?) may be relevant: A Review of the Genus Bryonia L. (Cucurbitaceae) - jsto... http://www.jstor.org/stable/4117182 Claudropol [Cluj], I860, Wolff; Turda, 5July 1889, Wolff; Cluj,. Bujorean 1776; Dobrudscha, Babadag, Sintenis 155-. BULGARIA. Near Sliven, Schneider 635; C. Jeffrey
Kew Bulletin Vol. 23, No. 3 (1969), pp. 441-461


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Roger Horton



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google finds an image of a medieval city "Claudiopolis, Coloswar vulgo Clausenburg, Transilvaniæ civitas primaria" - Claudiopolis, Coloswar commonly Clausenburg, primary city of Transilvania - now Cluj, Romania but then Hungary. HUH has a botanist Antal Czetz (1801–1865) who appears to have collected in Transilvania. Does the label say 'Recd 4/74' i.e. the date when the specimen entered the herbaium at Cluj, after the death of Czetz?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can now see the label reads exactly as per your info! - except the initial of 'C Czetz' but I daresay that could mean collected by? I'll edit in Czetz
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